"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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status -in relationship and dating, money, status, job title and money money is impo

joe45

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so my chinese folks said how status is soooo important. oh you as the guy have to make the $$, have high education, and have and make lots lots of money. the women would love you. if don;t have it ,then u have to date down a girl with just a college diploma like u. or maybe not even one girl would date u.



do you guys think status is a major point in relationship and dating. meaning a doctor won't marry a garbage man. meaning if u have a diploma ur gf/wife possibly be a diploma grad to , but no way a bachelor degree holder, mba.



no way a university degree holder would marry/date a guy with a diploma/certificate. is it really that black and white. you better have the money and make great amounts of money and have a high status job to get a girl do ppl really care that much.



a women would more likely marry a guy b/c of status: meaning the guy

has a high mba degree, his family owns 2 houses, and the guy has lots lots of money in the bank. status is king. if they guy doesn;t own his house, only has a diploma , and has minimum to medium amounts of money- a good women who also has a lot won't go for u.



examples: lets say i'm a 2 yr diploma graduate in business management are you sayin no way no how a university degree holder girl would date me. meaning i shouldn't even ask her out. and if we do go out and date it just not going to lasts. why!! the status and money situation shes higher educated, and also make more $$ than me. what do u guys think.

couples break up b/c of financial reason, the guy ain't makin enough and status of what he does for a living.

anyone girls here dated/married to a guy who made less money and had lower education than their bf / date / husband.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I have friends whose mother are upper class (or used to it) with average, gets drunk on beer fathers.

It happens, but regardless, I'm going to pose a question to you: if you had a mba and a good job, would you MARRY a woman who didn't make close to what you made? If so why -- do you trust her that much?

In the past month I was told by my mother two stories of two cousins of mine -- both were essentially screwed out of quite a large sum of money. I will tell you the worse of the two.

Years ago I met my cousin, his wife. Later on they had a boy together, and that was the last I saw of them. Apparently what happened later was that my uncle signed over his assets (he collects Chinese antiques, so it's quite a large sum) to my cousin because he (uncle) was planning to live in Hong Kong for the remainder of his retirement.

During this time my cousin and his wife get into a divorce situation. Now it's time to determine who gets what. I think you know where this is going.

She wants half of my uncle's assets, as they are in my cousin's name. Either that or she wants the kid.

Eventually my uncle had to sell his assets in hong kong to pay for the value of the Canadian assets, pay off my "cousin in law" and now I haven't seen any of them since -- cousin just hides in his house and won't leave, see us when we have family engagements, etc.

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I don't care how much I love another woman. If the asset disparity is high I will not marry.
 

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so my chinese folks said how status is soooo important.
I think your chinese folks need to calm down a bit. Looks like they're even bigger on "status" thant us German folks are...which would be pretty sad considering how pathetic the whole status thing is.

If I had multiple millions in my bank account Id actually prefer other people NOT to know about it. Especially because Id want to be able to get with a girl who doesnt like me mostly for my money.

I feel women when they say they dont want to date a guy who's out of work, an alcoholic and a drug addict, but if you have a somewhat decent job/life, I think "status" or money shouldnt be the decisive factor.
 

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well its b/c u can't get a guy that is of higher status-doctor, lawyer , accountant, guy with bachelor degree, so u settle for these pizza guys.

if a girl can get the big income earners she would say she wants em, if she can't get em she says ya i don't care for money and stauts-why she accepted it that she can't get them.

why do some girls date guys who are lower than them-b/c htey can't get the guy who is edcuated and makes more than her-so she settles for less. reasons be-her age she is getting older harder to find a mate, she not that attractive, she has some physical flaws

big resaon ppl split is b/c of money. relationship and couples split b/c good % wise its money. do u guys think so
 

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Yes, joe, it's important, but POTENTIAL, If she can see your potential or power to act, ambition, drive, desire for something bigger outside of her, then status as well as education is somewhat mitigated or even non-existent in her brain. She has to see that you're a go-getter. That's really all that matters.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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people who focus on this issue have nothing else going for them
 

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oh ya they might go out once in a while get a couple of date -ah ya. but no way a girl goin keep a guy with lower education and income and just lower status for long. once she find taht guy who is one notch or higher status -that lower status guy will be dumped.

girls just don;t keep lower status guys around for long, yea they hook up with em , date, hang out one to 3 dates, what not , just not and not for long. its just not goin to lasts.

would u even be friends with a person who had lower education, lower income, than u. i now i won;t
 

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You know man, it all depends I think. I'm just a high school student right now, but here is my two cents.

I know what you mean, I also come from an Asian family (so I know the type of educational pressure we type of people get). As far as education and seduction goes, there are many subcategories.

A woman is ultimately sexually seduced, not financially seduced. Sure, money is important, but it is how your money influences you personality.

According to what I read, females are attracted to stability. A female would marry a stable man, but she will have sex with the more interesting man. If you have money because you worked hard for it , meaning you had the passion to achieve great things, and you also balance other aspects of life, that's very attractive. However, if you have money just for the sake of having it, but you do not have anything else going for you, you can get married but the woman would get bored and dump you and take half your money.

As for being friends with people with lower income and lower education, you should still befriend them. Education and money are not the only factors that determine a person's worth and status. There is also personality, health, and social circles. You could be the wealthiest man on earth, but if you do not have good genes, personality and friends, a woman will still marry you, but cheat on you with 10 other guys.

Money is important in life, but character is way more important.
 
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