Starting off Diseal's Guide, need confirmation if I'm doing this right

[Brighty]

Ok, I'm 6'2 and I weight 164 pounds (I fall in the skinny bastard catagory) so I'm starting off with Diseal's guide.

Just making sure I'm doing this right:

From the guide:
2. Use these ratios to set up your diet: EAT THIS AMOUNT OF CALORIES EVERY DAY WHETHER YOU LIFT OR NOT

Protein: 1.3-1.5g / # of body weight
Carbs: 2-3g / # of body weight
Fat: .33-.5g / # of body weight

So, for someone who's 164 lbs, I would need:

.0085g of protein
.015g of carbs
.002g of fat


Is this correct or did I do the math wrong?

Also, when I start working out, could I start out working at home doing pushups, situps, using dumbells, and other exercises?

 

[Brian20o2]

You multiply it by you body weight not divide.
Protein 230 grams = 920 calories
Carbs 410 grams = 1640 Calories
Fats 82 grams = 738 Calories

Total about 3300 calories daily

 

[Jariel]

Ok, I'm 6'2 and I weight 164 pounds (I fall in the skinny bastard catagory) so I'm starting off with Diseal's guide.

Just making sure I'm doing this right:

From the guide:
2. Use these ratios to set up your diet: EAT THIS AMOUNT OF CALORIES EVERY DAY WHETHER YOU LIFT OR NOT

Protein: 1.3-1.5g / # of body weight
Carbs: 2-3g / # of body weight
Fat: .33-.5g / # of body weight

So, for someone who's 164 lbs, I would need:

.0085g of protein
.015g of carbs
.002g of fat


Is this correct or did I do the math wrong?

Also, when I start working out, could I start out working at home doing pushups, situps, using dumbells, and other exercises?

First of all, congratulations for starting with this guide. I used it and had amazing results! One of the best self development moves I ever made!

Now because you are so thin, it won't hurt too much if you go over the recommended calorie limit, just as long as you're not binging on junk and you're getting adequate protein and carbs. I ate more than my calorie limit when I started.

As for working out at home, go for it! Like me, you could have days dedicated to the gym where you do all your heavy weight work, then days at home where you work your abs, biceps, neck etc.

I bought a weightbench, barbell and dumbell set specifically for home use and did a lot of my workouts from home when the university gym was closed for summer. I don't suggest you lift very heavy weights from home without a spotter, but in my personal experience, you don't have to lift heavy in order to gain mass. I rarely exceeded a 120lbs barbell during my workouts.

Anyway, good luck and stick with it! The payoff is worth the effort!

 

[Lifeforce]

Start at a gym, don't waste your time at home. This way you can really get the full benifit of the newbie gains. I've forced my friends to the gym and after the first month they were hooked and they started telling me "I feel so much bigger" after increasing their lifts. If you lift home it's easy to fall into the "non progressive" training style. You lift the same dbs or lifts day after day and week after week.

+ you'll get alot more soreness from weights.

 

[Skilla_Staz]

I don't suggest you lift very heavy weights from home without a spotter,

Good advice. Very good advice. Had I not had a spotter in the weight room today, the push press may have just caused some serious back problems.

but in my personal experience, you don't have to lift heavy in order to gain mass. I rarely exceeded a 120lbs barbell during my workouts.

This I will disagree with. You need to overload your body in order for it to adapt. If you're lifting light weight on a regular basis, your body isn't going to have any need to become stronger, or larger. It just as if you sat on your butt all day. Your body isn't going to have any need for cardiovascular conditioning, so your cardiovascular system is going to become weaker, resulting in you being "out of shape"

 

[Skilla_Staz]

Ok, I'm 6'2 and I weight 164 pounds (I fall in the skinny bastard catagory) so I'm starting off with Diseal's guide.

Just making sure I'm doing this right:

From the guide:
2. Use these ratios to set up your diet: EAT THIS AMOUNT OF CALORIES EVERY DAY WHETHER YOU LIFT OR NOT

Protein: 1.3-1.5g / # of body weight
Carbs: 2-3g / # of body weight
Fat: .33-.5g / # of body weight

So, for someone who's 164 lbs, I would need:

.0085g of protein
.015g of carbs
.002g of fat


Is this correct or did I do the math wrong?

Also, when I start working out, could I start out working at home doing pushups, situps, using dumbells, and other exercises?

Those numbers meant ___g PER # of bodyweight. Somebody already did the math for you, but just for future reference. Common sense obviously told you that taking in less than .2g's a day of any of those is going to result in not even a 10 calorie diet. You'd be classified as anorexic lol

 

[Jariel]

This I will disagree with. You need to overload your body in order for it to adapt. If you're lifting light weight on a regular basis, your body isn't going to have any need to become stronger, or larger. It just as if you sat on your butt all day. Your body isn't going to have any need for cardiovascular conditioning, so your cardiovascular system is going to become weaker, resulting in you being "out of shape"

To be honest that is exactly what I have read and what most people here say, but I literally saw the muscle packing on my body. It's wrong to say I NEVER increased weight, but I tended to increase my reps before adding weight. I'd start at 8 reps, then once I could comfortably push out more than 16 reps, I added enough weight to push me back down to 8. But I definitely wasn't increasing weight on a weekly basis or pushing the 200lb+ mark.

The reason I worked out this way is because I read somewhere that overall volume is what is really effective at producing muscle. According to this info, 16 reps at 100lbs is the equivalent of 8 reps at 200lbs, which suited me when I was working out at home so I stuck with it.

I am definitely no expert at bodybuilding and would sooner pass any technical questions over to someone else, but I did get major results in terms of size...not so much with strength though.

 

[Warboss Alex]

16 reps at 100lbs is the equivalent of 8 reps at 200lbs

err. no. maths doesn't apply here.

Jariel, you gained a lot size but not strength.. what we call a prolonged pump.