"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Starting a new habit - cold aproaches

HolyG

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Cold approaching can be kind of tough. However, once you do it, you're usually glad that you did. It makes you feel more manly.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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just keep it up man. If you really think the hellos are helping then go ahead and finish a few more. By the time you're trying to *-close, you'll definitely want "Hello" to be the least of your worries.
 

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Count them and Move on to Week Two. You should start to realize that even the stuff at the end of the boot camp will be as easy as your first week. Remember how you felt about starting week one? And how you felt at the end of week one?

Use that reflection to plow through week 2. Scary-Exciting-No Problem!


:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
 

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Week 2 - Day 1

I've embarked on the scary mission of week 2: have 10 2-10min convos

And it feels great :)

I've read all the required material for this weeks boot camp, but only skimmed through the articles about the art of conversation. I have a bit of experience with this site and its influence on me and I know I've been focusing on the theory part of "the seduction process" :D too much in the past, that's why I am more focused on the exercises.

Anyway about the exercise, I made a goal for myself to complete it in 5 days and I think this mark can be achieved with a little self control.
I've already got my first conversation, but I want to have atleast 2 by the end of the day.

About the convo I am home alone today so I have to make lunch for me and my family, I didn't have a clue what to make, so I thought to myself I should ask a stranger :).

With that idea in my head, I went to the streets a bit nervy but determined, ( have to say the mention of the 3 second rule helped quite a bit). So walked for a bit, then I see a granny walking on the street, the anxiety grew even more. But my determination was decisive, I started with an eye contact and hello, and then almost without thinking said if she could help me out with my problem.

She gave me some simple pasta recipe (I think she was scared I'll burn down my house), and we talked about it for aprox. 2 mins and then split our ways.
I noticed she was really helpful and friendly, but kind of caught off guard with the question.

The feeling afterwards was great, because I see the change is already starting (I would never do that before, at least not without a good reason)

I could have talked a bit longer if I wanted to, forgot about the goal for a second there.

For the future convos I'll try to meet other kind of people (grannys are easy pickings), and also try to talk longer

P.S. Does talking to a salesperson count? That's kind of easy because they are obligated to talk to customers, but most of the people don't talk to them
 

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At this stage you should talk to everyone. The lesson being: Each situation is different and you will learn which ones get the best result. Sales people are like shooting fish in a bucket, but down the road you might run into a HB9 that is a sales person. Don't make all of your convo's to the same age or sex. Don't make all your convo's to the same situation either. Some on the streets, mall, work, gym, etc..

The more situations you put yourself in the more you will learn about the social dynamics of it. Where did you feel the most comfortable? Where did you get the best reaction? Etc...

FEAR = F(false)E(emotion)A(appearing)R(real)...

Sarge On!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Week 2 - Day 2

Was looking for an apartment for the whole day, so no new convos. (Met some new people but my future roommate talked more)

I've to step up tommorrow if I want to be finished with this exercise
 

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Hey forging, good luck on your journey! Here is some advice, though. I've found that saying hi to people and starting convos didn't really prepare me for approaching. Actually approaching girls you find attractive is sorta a separate skill so the only thing that worked for me was to just try to approach. It might be different for you, but in my experience I wasn't able to "build up" to approach, I had to "just do it." Good luck with whatever path you decide to take.
 
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