"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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started college, and I'm doing so well it's weirding me out

MascaraSnake

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Since I'm so organized and focused on my studies right now (which has boosted my confidence), I don't have time to really compliment and obsess over the women there. When I don't have my nose in my studies (or a random book) I treat them like regular people and add a bit of C and F in there. When I put them all up on pedestals and didn't focus on school, I always failed datewise (and nearly flunked out of school to boot).

As a result of this, I'm now doing about 20 times better with women than I did in high school, and it's just the first week. I tease a bit, and they always respond positively. Not that I don't enjoy the success, but I'm so used to doing badly that this is weirding me out.

I guess every potential DJ was an AFC at some point, but man...I could have actually enjoyed high school if I'd just done it a bit differently. Anyone else had a revelation like this?
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Haha, yeah. See the thing is, is that when you're less focused on girls and thus less desperate for them, they're more likely to be attracted. But when you actually want girls and are more desperate for sex, they're less likely going to be attracted. But yeah, you should keep doing what you're doing, you know, treating women like regular people with a little seduction put in there. This way you're automatically being real and genuine with them and they're seeing the real you. Also, since you're focused on your studies and stuff, they'll see you as less desperate.
 

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MascaraSnake said:
Since I'm so organized and focused on my studies right now (which has boosted my confidence), I don't have time to really compliment and obsess over the women there. When I don't have my nose in my studies (or a random book) I treat them like regular people and add a bit of C and F in there. When I put them all up on pedestals and didn't focus on school, I always failed datewise (and nearly flunked out of school to boot).

As a result of this, I'm now doing about 20 times better with women than I did in high school, and it's just the first week. I tease a bit, and they always respond positively. Not that I don't enjoy the success, but I'm so used to doing badly that this is weirding me out.

I guess every potential DJ was an AFC at some point, but man...I could have actually enjoyed high school if I'd just done it a bit differently. Anyone else had a revelation like this?

EDIT: One small question: when you first meet girls, do you keep a lot of information about yourself a secret? Not that I spill everything immediately, but obviously being a complete mystery man isn't really necessary either.
Success will find those who are too cool to look for it. :)
 

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daygameguy said:
Success will find those who are too cool to look for it. :)
HA! i like that :)

Sounds like you're having a great time Mascara Snake, and yeah, once you start getting good success it does weird you out for the first bit. Especially when you either tease or neghit them.

It's so damned attractive to them though, never in my AFC days would i have thought that if a girl says "I look like crap" and i reply with "I agree, here's a paperbag for you to hide in." that it would actually get a good response!

Focus on your studies, work on what's important to you, and the rest will fall in place.
 

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one small question to add...

I'm usually extremely polite and pleasant by default. When I start a conversation with a total stranger, I treat the smelly hobo the same way I treat the 10 out of 10 in my sociology class...much use of 'excuse me', 'sir', 'ma'am', etc.

I sort of do this when I have a first conversation with a cute girl. I really don't crank up the C and F that much, I just treat them like they're a potential guy friend I'm talking to. However, I never, EVER give direct compliments...they're almost always backhanded in some way. If I get to know them a bit better, I'll crank up the smartass to 11 a la Spinal Tap. Anything wrong with this? This is obviously not your typical AFC nice guy behavior, but I'm not sure if anyone on here would find it a bit too slow moving for their game.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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