started bodybuilding ended up with worse body...

[vwmaniac]

Input helps, I said that's what I'd do and if it's soooo wrong to say why, that's how anyone learns to do something better. Since you know more and are respected in this section, why don't you give him some kind of structure. Maybe you can give this guy a decent schedule to follow and the mods can delete mine so he doesn't get confused?

 

[Pimp-sicle]

You're focusing on your legs waaaay too much and making gains in the muscles that don't make you look/feel more muscular. If you want to trim up your chin and get a 6 pack you have to do cardio, get out running or biking 3 days a week, every other day. On the days in between do your pull ups, arms, chest, back, and abs. Example week, I'm no professional, so anyone that knows better please chime in, but this is what I would do in your situation:

Mon - Pulls ups, chest, abs
Tues - Run 2-3miles (or work up to that)
Wed - Bicep/Tricep, abs
Thurs - Bike 45min (stationary or outside)
Fri - Pull ups, back, abs
Sat - Fun cardio (heavybag, sports, 2hours of sex, etc)
Sun - Rest

Only take protein right after lifting and keep it under 50grams. Look up a few basic exercises for those muscle groups that make your workout around 30 minutes doing sets with short rests (20-30 sec), or make super-sets out of 3-4 exercises with 2min rests between.

No offense I know your only trying to help, but why would you even give advice when its clear that your also implying you don't know what your talking about?

Protein only after lifting? Really??! Keep it under 50 grams? Why?


I'm not going to go in depth but will simply tell you that abs are a muscle group, they are built the same way that other muscle groups are built. From resistance training. Yes having your abs completely show is more a function of diet, but cardio in excess is catabolic and again effective cardio has everything to do with heart rate and nothing to do with duration.

Lastly, ever heard of over-training? Training 6 days a week with only one day of rest is a recipe for disaster esp in higher volumes unless your a drugged athlete or highly experienced and know how to make up for that deficit through diet. I'm not saying the schedule you outlined above would be over-training, since it splits cardio and resistance training to separate days, but a 6 day on 1 day off schedule is not optimal for the OP's goals.


I'm not trying to attack you, but it gets frustrating reading this particular forum since there are so many people passing along advice that either are not sure or simply rehashing what they read on Google. I'm all about education, but the best proof is real life application of said methods.




PIMP

 

[vwmaniac]

No offense I know your only trying to help, but why would you even give advice when its clear that your also implying you don't know what your talking about?

I'm going off my own experience, and don't want to come off like a pro. I'm looking to have guys that are more experienced explain what is good or bad about what I suggested to help the OP. Like mentioning over-training, now he'll know that just because one person can do 6-days a week (my sat is intended to be lazier) doesn't mean he should try to right off the bat. If he could bench his body weight I'd tell him to take no protein and get tons of reps in to trim down. I'm 6' and have gone from stick thin 140lbs, to fat 165, to trim 185, then to not fat but not thin 210, and now at a comfortable 195 over the last 10 years. I'm not looking to cause problems so I'll just stay out, it's just amazing how fast I'm dead wrong but nobody else has given him anything meaningful to digest except fugly.

 

[Kendrick]

Most common benefits of the bodybuilding are:
- It increases resistance to injury.
- It increases bone mass and mobility.
- It helps reduce the risk of heart disease and lowers the levels of LDL cholesterol.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

I'm going off my own experience, and don't want to come off like a pro. I'm looking to have guys that are more experienced explain what is good or bad about what I suggested to help the OP. Like mentioning over-training, now he'll know that just because one person can do 6-days a week (my sat is intended to be lazier) doesn't mean he should try to right off the bat. If he could bench his body weight I'd tell him to take no protein and get tons of reps in to trim down. I'm 6' and have gone from stick thin 140lbs, to fat 165, to trim 185, then to not fat but not thin 210, and now at a comfortable 195 over the last 10 years. I'm not looking to cause problems so I'll just stay out, it's just amazing how fast I'm dead wrong but nobody else has given him anything meaningful to digest except fugly.

One person does not equal the norm.

What does benching your bodyweight have to do with protein requirements?

I wasn't trying to insinuate that you were causing problems, I think hearing different perspectives is interesting and good because to be truthfully honest there is no set formula that will work for everyone. Everyone has to tweak based on their metabolic rate, activity level, age, deficiencies in their kinetic chain etc etc.

I apologize if I came off as "i'm right, your wrong" wasn't the point. I was questioning some of your suggestions and wanted to learn more about why you were saying them. As I look back at my response I should I have worded it better, my bad.

Stick around and I would be happy to give you my school of thought.




PIMP

 

[GoodButNotGreat]

You're focusing on your legs waaaay too much and making gains in the muscles that don't make you look/feel more muscular. If you want to trim up your chin and get a 6 pack you have to do cardio, get out running or biking 3 days a week, every other day. On the days in between do your pull ups, arms, chest, back, and abs. Example week, I'm no professional, so anyone that knows better please chime in, but this is what I would do in your situation:

Mon - Pulls ups, chest, abs
Tues - Run 2-3miles (or work up to that)
Wed - Bicep/Tricep, abs
Thurs - Bike 45min (stationary or outside)
Fri - Pull ups, back, abs
Sat - Fun cardio (heavybag, sports, 2hours of sex, etc)
Sun - Rest

Only take protein right after lifting and keep it under 50grams. Look up a few basic exercises for those muscle groups that make your workout around 30 minutes doing sets with short rests (20-30 sec), or make super-sets out of 3-4 exercises with 2min rests between.

wheres your shoulders bro? shoulders are so important lol

 

[PeterSiddle]

I think that you need to keep on doing the same work out routine,just change up your diet plan.I think that 142 is a good weight and you need to worry about it as much...
Who told you that you are skinny???
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