Reyaj
Master Don Juan
How about just people in general? Do you change the way you stare if there is a guy approaching rather than a girl?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Starring at girls or just people when walking???
- Thread starter Reyaj
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
bump
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
come on.....
h2o
Banned
i doubt this would ever lead to anything. you need atleast some rapport.
however, i've done this once, yes just looked over smiled, then rolled down the window. and got her number. but she ended up flaking.
instead of bumping this topic, go out in the field and just do it...go all out and crazy with it, just do it
and read Shezzler's tip: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80368
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
animal crackers
Senior Don Juan
Wow, you wouldn't think car pickup would lead to ANYTHING, right?
Me and SGDJ and my friend def froved that wrong. We've gotten a handful of #'s from girls we approached in cars. My buddy also jumped out of my sunroof 1 time and got the # of the girl in the car next to us.
The next week we all went to a party w/her, and he is now dating her.
As for looking at people when you are walking down the street, I believe a healthy glance with curious eyes works best.
1 thing to never do: When she looks at you looking at her, never just dart your eyes away. I still do this sometimes out of instinct. This is a sure way to kill any attraction.
I like to give them a little smirk and follow them with my eyes if they look at me.
animal crackers
Me and SGDJ and my friend def froved that wrong. We've gotten a handful of #'s from girls we approached in cars. My buddy also jumped out of my sunroof 1 time and got the # of the girl in the car next to us.
The next week we all went to a party w/her, and he is now dating her.
As for looking at people when you are walking down the street, I believe a healthy glance with curious eyes works best.
1 thing to never do: When she looks at you looking at her, never just dart your eyes away. I still do this sometimes out of instinct. This is a sure way to kill any attraction.
I like to give them a little smirk and follow them with my eyes if they look at me.
animal crackers
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
bump, bump it up, we gotta bump it up
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Still having trouble with this....
I will sometimes stare at a girl too long and I think they get freaked out. WHen I keep this in mind I look away from a girl too quickly and it shows lack of confidence.
I need a solid tip here from guys that have success making eye contact with girls.
I will sometimes stare at a girl too long and I think they get freaked out. WHen I keep this in mind I look away from a girl too quickly and it shows lack of confidence.
I need a solid tip here from guys that have success making eye contact with girls.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
bump
Don't look at a girl with hungry eyes even if she's really hot or wearing something incredibly tight. If you feel the urge to stare her down, then don't let her catch you. Otherwise, it will make you appear as if you have ill intent (i.e. rape). If you get caught looking, make sure you are looking at her face. Girls like it when a guy looks into their eyes and not at their assets. These days the latter constitutes sexual harassment.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
OrioleMagic
Don Juan
Just the other day at school I saw a girl walking past me 30 or so feet away. (Not directly past me, sort of at an angle) I saw her out of the corner of my eye and turned around and checked her out for about 3 seconds. I could tell that she noticed me. The next time I saw her, I noticed she was checking me out. I don't stop in my tracks for just any woman, but when I see a woman I find extraordinary, then I will make it obvious I am checking her out. I'll have to see if I can run into her again, I think we have the same major, but not in any of the same classes.
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
Oh man, Jayer, if you're still having problems with this after half a year...damn you need some social skills
It's not hard, just look her in the eye, maybe smile at her, acknowledge her somehow (say "hey", give her a nod or wink at her....whatever) and then be on your merry way. Simple social interaction.
It's not hard, just look her in the eye, maybe smile at her, acknowledge her somehow (say "hey", give her a nod or wink at her....whatever) and then be on your merry way. Simple social interaction.
^^^ agreed.
You're waaay too focused on hitting a home run... practice going for singles first.
There's a lot of insight to be learned if you can just be the social guy FIRST, and then eventually evolve into the social guy with 100% game. At this point, as it seems, you're setting yourself up to get shot down HARD because you're not really ready to even ask for numbers. Go for making her smile, and coming across as non-threatening.
You're waaay too focused on hitting a home run... practice going for singles first.
There's a lot of insight to be learned if you can just be the social guy FIRST, and then eventually evolve into the social guy with 100% game. At this point, as it seems, you're setting yourself up to get shot down HARD because you're not really ready to even ask for numbers. Go for making her smile, and coming across as non-threatening.
Totally understood... in a very real sense, we ALL are relatively analytical in this field we call Pick-Up. I read a book called "Psycho-Cybernetics" by Dr. Maxwell Maltz (a gem of a book if you're studying the power of self-image.) and he made the analogy of how underwater guided missiles actually reach their target.Brak86 said:
Now, initially, when a submarine zeroes in on it's intended target, they pretty much get a good frame of where that target is - distance, speed, angle, water current, etc. Be it 50 meters or 500 meters away, this is standard procedure.
Ready, aim, fire...
As the missile launches, it encounters a ton of different distractions that actually veer it away from it's target. This may include miscalculated current speeds, change of direction from the target, even speed.
Had the guided target STILL went on it's INTENDED path, it is a sure shot from 20 meters upon launch, that the target will NOT be hit.
But that's why we call it a GUIDED missile.
The missile has a special device that enables it to correct it's course EN-ROUTE to it's target. Every 10 or so meters of travel, it receives a signal via satellite that automatically helps it correct it's course, to adjust to the new information it's receiving from the intended target.
Doing so, this guided missile is 90% more accurate in it's trajectory, in LARGE part because it KEPT ON MOVING.
Case in point?
LAUNCH. KEEP MOVING. You CAN'T hit your target if you just shoot from the submarine, without guidance.
Do something. The beauty of your mind is, you'll know exactly where you might've messed up, because you can recall the actions you've taken in any situation. If you keep taking action, YOUR SATELLITE (fellow Don Juans), will help you correct your course with proper feedback. But it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to get you to GET IT, just by aiming from the submarine. Because the truth is, you're going to HAVE TO get negative feedback, only so that your course can be corrected. This is the price of mastery. The sooner you accept that, the faster the improvements. In this case, the target isn't success with ALL women. It's a successful ESSENCE WITH women.
I totally understand the analytical part. I empathize with that a whooooole bunch because I myself was like that. And taking that leap is definitely easier said than done. So I'll leave it at that.
Just hopefully... add that story to your arsenal. Don't fear failure. It's just a signal that helps adjust your course. As long as you keep launching and traveling your given path, moreso through ACTION, you'll get a MORE ACCURATE signal as to where you are, and as you adjust, you'll be 90% more accurate in the long-term than if you had just sat in your "submarine" and kept calculating how to hit the target.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
Hey there, Mr. Stalker.
Anyway, what the h*ck is this cr*p? With all the guys out there checking girls out being the one to make it feel strange is actually an accomplishment!
You do not AVOID or SEEK eye contact. WHY the heck would you do that?
1. You look around
2. You return your eyes on the girl that got your attention
3. You check her out
4. You liked what you saw? Then look in her eyes and smile.
This is the "all-mighty, all-so-clever, sure-success, ingenious, hail-science formula" that every second guy out there knows!
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
how about if you are at a bar and a pretty girl is next to you talking to a friend. Do you look her in the eye? How long? Do you say something as soon as you make eye contact? Can you smile at her and talk to her later?
3 seocnd rule!
3 seocnd rule!
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
I agree with not making excuses for being a man. But havent you noticed that girls get a little freaked out if you stare at them too long or hard?
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
right or wrong?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.