Reyaj
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bump... just because its a good target
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Starring at girls or just people when walking???
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Reyaj
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skip2mylou781
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Jayer said:
how bout u look at her for a second, stop, and say "hey baby whats ur name?".......that way ur not being some AFC analyzing eye contact patterns and wondering what just happened as the girl has passed u by and u blew the opportunity to even try to talk to her
this is NOT a serious enough issue to analyze and worry about so much
worry about how to fvck a girl so good that she'll come back for more - not hwo to properly make eye contact
Reyaj
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nice. Just kick game to anyone right?
Ace_McGregor
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Winking sounds interesting. I wonder what reactions you'd get if you stuck your tongue out at her in a playful manner. haha
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Francisco d'Anconia
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Stick your tongue where?Ace_McGregor said:
Yea but a mean face is neccessary walking around London so that way people stay away from you. Everyone thinks Londoners are unfriendly because of this but it's not true, in a social setting Londoners are more friendly than most other people I've met.
As for staring, i do it but just to admire the eye-candy. Once while walking through Waterloo station this perfect 10 supermodel walked across my path, my jaw hit the floor and my neck almost broke while I was tracking her. It was actually very funny as she looked at me and smiled and then looked down a wee bit shyly - it made my day and gave her a wee boost too.
Girls like to be looked at as long as you don't do it with all the charm of a rapist. It's a compliment, but move the **** on, most girls don't want to be hit-on walking down the street.
Oh as for this girl, I hate to say it but when guys rate girls. They need to see these type of women up-close first to get a high-end benchmark. TV and other media makes good-looking people look normal and gorgeous just good-looking. I couldn't believe how amazing she looked - She made normal really hot girls look like trolls.
As for staring, i do it but just to admire the eye-candy. Once while walking through Waterloo station this perfect 10 supermodel walked across my path, my jaw hit the floor and my neck almost broke while I was tracking her. It was actually very funny as she looked at me and smiled and then looked down a wee bit shyly - it made my day and gave her a wee boost too.
Girls like to be looked at as long as you don't do it with all the charm of a rapist. It's a compliment, but move the **** on, most girls don't want to be hit-on walking down the street.
Oh as for this girl, I hate to say it but when guys rate girls. They need to see these type of women up-close first to get a high-end benchmark. TV and other media makes good-looking people look normal and gorgeous just good-looking. I couldn't believe how amazing she looked - She made normal really hot girls look like trolls.
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This area is where the "nice guy" really fails. It is not about being "nice" it is about being afraid of your own sexuality as a man. You are a man. You have desires. Do not be ashamed of your sexuality. EMBRACE it.Jayer said:
If a guy looks down on you for checking a girl out, he is jealous he doesn't even have the guts to do it. If it is a girl, she is just jealous you aren't checking HER out.
So what are you afraid of?
Go for it. Be your own man.
This wasn't anyone I knew but from the way she dressed and looked, she could have been a supermodel.
As for celebrities up close. I've seen Jenifer Lopez and she is stunning. Plus alot of English B-List celebrities.
What I was really talking about is perspective. You get used to seeing very gorgeous people on TV and in print, but because they're surrounded by other relatively good looking people. They look normal. The reverse is true when you "think" a girl is a 8 or a 9 in real life.
But yea man - you come from California so your perspective is a bit different again. I've been there, people there tend to be proportionally more
fit/healthy and gorgeous than elseware although it's still America so you still get alot of fatties.
As for celebrities up close. I've seen Jenifer Lopez and she is stunning. Plus alot of English B-List celebrities.
What I was really talking about is perspective. You get used to seeing very gorgeous people on TV and in print, but because they're surrounded by other relatively good looking people. They look normal. The reverse is true when you "think" a girl is a 8 or a 9 in real life.
But yea man - you come from California so your perspective is a bit different again. I've been there, people there tend to be proportionally more
fit/healthy and gorgeous than elseware although it's still America so you still get alot of fatties.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I've found that if I keep myself centered, and hold my value, rather than giving it to her while I'm looking. I can look all I want.
Otherwise the chick will either be disgusted in your desperation... or just drink up your value giving attention.
See it as the energetics of "I'm the prize!"
Originally when I became aware of this phenomena, I noticed I gave my value away to every chick I scoped. I could literally feel my body's energy giving it to her through feelings. I could feel how SHE became the prize of attention. Her body was the focus. Her looks were the focus.
So I conciously started to flip that sh!t. It was really difficult, at first... and still is sometimes. I'll catch my attention switching to her body, rather than my own. Which is ok......... as long as you still are aware of your own body. Then your still centered and your not lost on her (so to speak). Your still are holding your own value, and there is the ability for her attention to then value you as well. There is like a bridge of attention, which she can then crossover to you. And she will only crossover if you have that value in yourself (the centered self-attention).
So the key is just that... staying centered in yourself.
It will let her know through feeling that you value yourself, and she is not the sh!t on a pedestal to you. Something obviously attractive, cause every other man just pours his being of value onto her... and she drinks that sh!t up, and continues her strut.
Something to def. work on, and become aware of!
I remember DD speaking about a guy who was so grounded in himself, and not giving an ounce of power to anyone.
It didn't occur to me, until recently when I became aware of this being "centered in self" phenomena, during interactions. That is what he was talking about.
So, Try it.
Keep your focus/attention on your body, even though your peeping her.
Notice the difference. Become aware of how you'll slip up, and how your attention will go to her and give her all your value. lol
Otherwise the chick will either be disgusted in your desperation... or just drink up your value giving attention.
See it as the energetics of "I'm the prize!"
Originally when I became aware of this phenomena, I noticed I gave my value away to every chick I scoped. I could literally feel my body's energy giving it to her through feelings. I could feel how SHE became the prize of attention. Her body was the focus. Her looks were the focus.
So I conciously started to flip that sh!t. It was really difficult, at first... and still is sometimes. I'll catch my attention switching to her body, rather than my own. Which is ok......... as long as you still are aware of your own body. Then your still centered and your not lost on her (so to speak). Your still are holding your own value, and there is the ability for her attention to then value you as well. There is like a bridge of attention, which she can then crossover to you. And she will only crossover if you have that value in yourself (the centered self-attention).
So the key is just that... staying centered in yourself.
It will let her know through feeling that you value yourself, and she is not the sh!t on a pedestal to you. Something obviously attractive, cause every other man just pours his being of value onto her... and she drinks that sh!t up, and continues her strut.
Something to def. work on, and become aware of!
I remember DD speaking about a guy who was so grounded in himself, and not giving an ounce of power to anyone.
It didn't occur to me, until recently when I became aware of this being "centered in self" phenomena, during interactions. That is what he was talking about.
So, Try it.
Keep your focus/attention on your body, even though your peeping her.
Notice the difference. Become aware of how you'll slip up, and how your attention will go to her and give her all your value. lol
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Darklightt,
So basically just be confident and look... but don't stare or drool?
Do you ever use any pick up lines?
So basically just be confident and look... but don't stare or drool?
Do you ever use any pick up lines?
Reyaj
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Reyaj
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Darklight can you elaborate pleeeease.
Describe what you do physically with your approach thats different than the average afc
Describe what you do physically with your approach thats different than the average afc
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starting then
If they see you looking at them don't stop. when they get close enough to u. Smile and give them a wink, The smile you get back will surprice you and you will have a starting point to meet her one on one someplace.
If they see you looking at them don't stop. when they get close enough to u. Smile and give them a wink, The smile you get back will surprice you and you will have a starting point to meet her one on one someplace.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Reyaj
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I agree. But it seems if you stare too hard girls get freaked out.
What's the key to doing it just right?
What's the key to doing it just right?
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Hey Jayer, you give a good point. After doing the bootcamp 2 weeks(not easy at all) so far, When I look at a girl and she looks at me back, i smile and say "Whatsup". If I look at her, and she looks down smiling, i'll smile and wait till she looks back again...which most of the time, she'll look up again and smile. If im about 10 feet way, i'll look and if she's not looking back, i'll look away but at at "Checking to see if she does it too" view.
But, I still get fearful when they catch me checking them out(their assets) and I immediately look away(Eventho most don't catch u doing it, just the ones that do). I think one time I actually didn't realize that I was checking a girl out and that same girl smiled at me. Gotta get over that fear as I doubt i'll ever see them again(The ones that catch me checking them out) and If I do, its no big deal. What's the worst that'll happen besides ego lowering?
I use to take it really really seriously, but not as much now.
You should try the bootcamp. Its helping me out so far. Is it getting ALOT harder, no doubt about it...but I am getting over my fears once again.
But, I still get fearful when they catch me checking them out(their assets) and I immediately look away(Eventho most don't catch u doing it, just the ones that do). I think one time I actually didn't realize that I was checking a girl out and that same girl smiled at me. Gotta get over that fear as I doubt i'll ever see them again(The ones that catch me checking them out) and If I do, its no big deal. What's the worst that'll happen besides ego lowering?
I use to take it really really seriously, but not as much now.
You should try the bootcamp. Its helping me out so far. Is it getting ALOT harder, no doubt about it...but I am getting over my fears once again.
Jayer said:
Will do.
Its simple... she's either owning your attention, or your owning your attention. (and thereby, owning her attention
)Your feeling her body w. your attention... or your feeling your own.
The trick is... to feel her body through yours.
Just imagine the AFC who's jaw drops, when an HB10 walks by. He's lost on her. Totally not centered in self, and therefore energetically tells her... she's the value.
Now imagine this: A Don Juan chillin w. a slight smirk not even visible to the eye... but more sensed through feeling. He's sitting there in big open body language... feeling her sexy body through his own. All the while, owning her attention through his state of mind, and the feelings its creating. A sexual confident state, relaxed but seductively powerful.
That right there is key to this gaze... staying centered in self, and holding DJ frame of mind. Sounds easy... but its not. The HB's presence alone, will bring up your issues. And those issues will color your mind, thus your feelings that are communicating to her.
NOT TO MENTION YOUR EYE CONTACT!
Now I've found, that you can eye up a woman as long as you want... if your holding your power in such a DJ frame. She'll move in your seductive gaze like a woman (IE. sexually caressing herself in your vision's energy, LOVING IT).
Points of interest.
If your not owning it... she'll see you as an AFC drooling.
If your owning it... your owning it. And you can look as long as you want, as long as your frame of mind is producing a sexually enriching light for her to move in.
Women don't like to be seen as sheer meat.
Your gaze has to be sexually charged but penetrating to her soul level as well. This way her entire being is being desired, and honored. The totality of her feminity is being valued. Thus... the Okayness.
If you look at a woman as a cheap *****, on just the physical level... she'll feel robbed. You want to sexually molest her with your energy/vision from her spirit on up, lol. That way she can feel your heart in it too... and allow herself to bathe in it. Otherwise she'll just feel cheapened. And that's a turn off.
Once again... let me clarify the necessity to be holding yourself higher. Worst case... equal, but preferably higher. And not from a d!ckwad arrogant standpoint... just a powerful man of value standpoint, evaluating where she's at.
From this energetic level of communication, eye contact, etc. You can pretty much drop anything on her. Reason being... you've already communicated whats important. She knows whats up.
You could walk up to her, holding such eyes... and simply say with the same suggestive quality... "Nice day uh!"
And she'll know what the fvck is goin down, and love it. Hahahaaa
Ahhhhh... women!
Love'm :cheer: lol
Reyaj
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DarkLight
Great Response! I'm going to study that one.
How long did it take you to get the stare of your value being higher down?
A lot of practice I bet.
Also anything you can recommend me reading without over analyzing I'd appreciate as I want to get to your level.
Great Response! I'm going to study that one.
How long did it take you to get the stare of your value being higher down?
A lot of practice I bet.
Also anything you can recommend me reading without over analyzing I'd appreciate as I want to get to your level.
I always check out girls when im walking around, and I make eye contact with them if they look at me. I dont think they should be insulted when I check them out, it should be looked at as a compliment. Plus, the eye contact lets her know that you have some confidence.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.