"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Spinning plate says i am a liar

Romjuan

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Feels like ive been posting like crazy on the forum since ive become single, but hey, i need to keep you guys entertained. not to mention helping me out is hopefully keeping your game sharp.

One of these girls that ive been dating asked me a while ago if i was dating anyother girls. I should have said something like none of your business, but i told her no. (i should have learned from my last mistake when i told the ex the same thing). we were in my car a while ago and she sees a girls hair clip on the passenger floor and asks about it. I told her that since i became single friends have been asking me to go out with their friends but im not "dating" them. since then obviously shes been acting different. more quiet and reserved. im thinkin she is thinking im a liar and that im either rebounding with her or im a player.

monday im suppose to go out to dinner with her and i wanted to see how she felt about me. i still have 3 other plates but this one was the best sexually. my question is how can i ask about how she feels about us, without lowering my value?

i know a lot of you are going to say i shouldnt think about a relationship right now, or i should not care how she feels, but id like to continue to go out with her and not see this fizzle out.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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BeyondCharm

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my question is how can i ask about how she feels about us, without lowering my value?

i know a lot of you are going to say i shouldnt think about a relationship right now, or i should not care how she feels, but id like to continue to go out with her and not see this fizzle out.
Are you seriously going to ask her that? How AFC is that..... You don't need her, you are the PRIZE... Remember, women are ONLY ATTRACTED to men who they see as the prize.. memorize that, repeat it out loud....

If an "us" comes to develop, it will happen naturally... Every time you impose your willful AFC neediness, you ruin your chances that much further.... The time to have that talk, if it ever comes, will occur naturally and most likely when you have been dating for a while, been fvcking and been having TONS of fun... and even then you might decide to continue spinnig other plates...

You're not patient, so you're going to lose your edge.. imagine yourself like a blacksmith, patience at the forge wields a great weapon, don't shatter your progress by rushing into things... if you take the sword off the forge to ask it about "us", it will cool down and be unforgable after that... and thus never reach its full potential...
 

taiyuu_otoko

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Romjuan said:
One of these girls that ive been dating asked me a while ago if i was dating anyother girls. I should have said something like none of your business, but i told her no.
Game over.

Find somebody else.
 

romangod

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BeyondCharm said:
You don't need her, you are the PRIZE...
He's the prize? You obviously haven't read his other posts. He's the cannon fodder.


Cheers!
 

Kailex

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Spinning plate was right.
Either you are a liar to her or you are a liar to us.

Once you figure that out and why Taiyuu said what he said... THEN you can respond in this thread to us.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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