speed seduction

[macknetikcharm]

curious about the basics of this "speed seduction", "sexual key" stuff... can someone explain, especially "loaded words"?

thanks

 

[playboy_supreme]

ross jefreys ebook can tell you a fair bit as well as a few NLP books out there. i think the loaded words are words which trigger a reaction to what ever you are saying. for example, the roller coaster pattern, the loaded word in that would be ATTRACTION. i could be wrong im not really an SS follower. do a search for ebooks

 

[everywomanshero]

You should take time to search for the many critisisms against NLP first. It is on the quack list and there have been controlled studies refuting botht he foundational ideas NLP is based on and the actual effectiveness of the techniques. RJ is suspect by association and the fact that he believes in scientifically disproven technologies.

He also believe silly things like saying New Direction in a way to suggest NUDE ERECTIOn will get women aroused. I have had some success with his phone msg and tid bits, probably just because it's weird and different.

I'm not knocking something I know little of (SS), but you should be aware that a lot of what is said may be based on something other than scientifically accurate facts.

 

[playboy_supreme]

SS is just another tool in the game. use it or dont thats up to you. dont believe everything you read about it, negative or other wise. find out for your self and make your own judgments.

 

[Hawke]

I second that.

I've read a lot of comments saying that SS doesn't work, but i've had some great successes with it. Only advice i'd give though is to study NLP aswell as SS, you'll learn a lot more useful tools that way.

 

[Gonzalo]

The "studies" and the "scientists" say a lot of things, bro....

try it for yourself... at best, you may be pleasantly surprised.

 

[micams]

Scientifically unproven

no field of psychology have ever been scientifically proved.
Even a lot of medical of biological processes remain unproven and unexplain. So if u want to use only scientifically proven things, u'll stop doing 99% of what is out there.
Psychology and NLP are purely subjective matters, some things in them are useful, use that and throw the rest.

 

[everywomanshero]

no field of psychology have ever been scientifically proved.
Even a lot of medical of biological processes remain unproven and unexplain. So if u want to use only scientifically proven things, u'll stop doing 99% of what is out there.
Psychology and NLP are purely subjective matters, some things in them are useful, use that and throw the rest.

That;'s not really true. We have studies showing the effectiveness of many commonly used treatments. Prescription drugs, affirmations, etc. The patients are also monitored for long term results.

The problem with NLP is that when studies were performed it didn't work out very well. It has sank to the witch doctor level by now. I'm not going to say RJ stuff doesn't work, I have no idea. I am going to say that a lot of it probably doesn't work for the reasons he believes it will work.

 

[micams]

U know, in the field of psychology/medicine, saying that something works means that in ONE reported study, the effect was at least a little higher than that of a placebo.
You can take exactly the same experience and redo it with other subjects and have different(less spectacular) results, even bad or side effects.
Moreover a lot if not the majority of those kinds of studies are biased from the beginning.
So saying that NLP is not scientifically proven is the same as saying 90% of psychology and biology and medicine are not scientifically proven.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

NLP is a different level of lifestyle... very different

Nearly none of it is subconcious, it's just teaches you to take everything in line with what is normal!

If you do a regular refresher of NLP each week, you discussion, whether planned or not, will run smoother. I have not read the stuff in years, and I feel as though I know it, but choose to throw it out the window and choose my own style.

NEW DIRECTION
go FOR COFFee
COME WITH ME
you a vegetarian? You mean you don't want to EAT MEat?

If played innocently, some girls will jump at the word, and stray from the conversation. I've pulled all of this stuff by accident even before I knew that NLP existed, so when I learned of it, I already kinew it was something I was interested in. "Your ass is dirty" that was my favourite, I got a lay 5 minutes later when we went around the corner because she thought I said "let's do the nasty dirty".

It's just messing with their heads, some girls know all about throwing dirty words into innocent conversation, and it pisses them off... so you come off as a perv.

weasel phrases, are not weasely, they are simply leading phrases, to put somebody in track with what is going on.

I don't believe any of it is magical, i just believe that it takes advantage of people's mental pathways(patterns) and leads them to revealing the truth.

Still, as has been said, some people recognize your pattern, and label you a perv, and your game is done. If they catch you doing it to somebody else, they might say something, the new girl will think "EWW, I thought I heard him trying to talk dirty to me"

 

[micams]

U are coming from the frame that girls are innocent creatures perverted by the nasty horny guys.
That's a complete ****ed frame that is 100% FALSE.
In fact of both genders, the male in our social conditionning is the more sane psychologically beacause he goes for what he wants, he's assertive, straightforward, sincere...
The women gender, unfortunately, is conditionned to hide its desires even though they're higher their men, they play the offended virgins...
All that leads to a very low level of self esteem and assertiveness in females(some say 3 ou 4 times less than the self esteem of males) plus it leads to all psychological and emotionnal manipulations that females use with an all time supremacy, insincerity, jalousy, hypocrisy, negative nasty competition between females,etc.
I believe that this situation will never change unless a radical new behavior is practiced by females.
The above opinion is shared by highly renowned male and female psychologists and it isn't an invention from me.

 

[macknetikcharm]

I know I already do some of it subconsciously...

Im just trying to upgrade my conscious knowledge, I always rewind conversations in my head and notice ME and HER dropping little hints

thanks for the input