Speed dating, need your advice and tips guys

[Fash]

Ok...

I have booked my self and a friend in for a spot of speed dating this saturday night. Now, as many of you who know me may know, I do pretty well normally, so I don't NEED to go speed dating. This is the first time I'm doing this and I think it will be a fun and exciting thing to do.

For those of you who dont know what "Speed Dating" is, it is basically an event of 20 guys and 20 chicks in a bar with 20 tables. The women sit at a table, and the guys rotate every 3 minutes. So you meet and get to speak to each girl for 3 minutes. You then mark a yes/no/friends on the card you have. If you get a yes match with anyone, your contact details will be revealed to each other and you take it from there...

So...

Has anyone ever done this sort of thing? Do you guys have any tips and advice?

Maybe some cool questions to ask. Remember, you have 3 minutes to grab her attention and make her remember you. Even speed seduction needs more than 3 minutes!

Let the games begin!!!!!!!!

:woo: :woo: :woo:

 

[poohead]

man you are lucky i am online, i've done this twice and i've come up with some really good techniques.

basically - first thing is make sure that you bring your A game, dress well - you will talk to all types, lawyers, nurses, unemployed slacker girls. you want to make the best impression because you only have 3-4 minutes.

when i went there were 60 people - that was a *lot*. 30 women 30 men. we were in a large club. they had the women sit around in tables all around the club, everyone had a number. the men basically went from table to table *clockwise in order* until they went all around the room, you can't skip around.

what happens: we had to do 30 convos, 4 mins each, you switch when they ring a bell. there are so many people that it will take *hours* to go around the room. as a consequence, people become very tired. they become bored, cranky, and feel stupid from saying the same things table after table. at the start of the evening, everyone is enthusiastic, the women are nice - by the time you are on your 28th convo, they are *****y as hell because they're sick of talking. i had a few act like royal b**tches and just tune me out altogether. one held her hand up to my face and said 'enough' and just refused to talk because she was so sick of it.

my advice: find the ones you are most attracted to and *focus on them. there's not enough time to focus on too many so choose wisely*. make sure you get them *first*, at the beginning of the evening, so they will be fresh and pleasant to talk to. either that, or get them at the end of the night - they will be nice because they'll be relieved it's over - and you can escort them to the mixer afterwards and monopolize them.

also --
you will have to wait a day to get your matches via email. this is BS, don't wait for this. go for immediate results. the second time i went, if there was a girl i liked i simply asked for her email instead of waiting for the results to see if she matched. there are so many people to keep straight, she may forget about you at the end of the night.

in the end it was interesting - out of all the people i'd say about half were HB7+, the rest were dogs. out of the HB7+'s, i'd say about 40 percent were HB8/9. so you will be pleasantly surprised. at least that was my experience.

 

[speakeasy]

I did it. I would recommend it. I was a bit weirded out as first, but as I got going, it turned out to be fun. Try to sign up for one where there's no more than 15-20 women you will meet. Because like the other guy said, it DOES get tiring after awhile.

It's a good opportunity to practice C+F.

 

[Fash]

AFTER SPEEDATE

Make yourself scarce...if any of the women like you, they will follow you out...trust me on this one...let them follow you, but you need to get going cause you're late for something...don't engage in any post-SD convo...

mmmm that might be a little difficult because the event is being held at a pretty cool club. The event is suposed to finish at 10:30pm but the club is open til 3am, so I was planning on staying around.

I was under the impression that after the speed dating has finished, i'd sarge the ones that gave me IOIs and number/kiss/fclose them on the night.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Speed Dating is yet another feminine ploy to control the frame to their own advantage. It's horsesh!t. You pay for the privilege to have her be the PRIZE? Fvck that. You may as well go buy drinks for the HB 8 at the end of the bar like the other 12 guys before you on any given night, you'd spend less money. At least you'll get to select who you'd want to approach. All Speed Dating does is ensure that the woman has half a dozen men SHE FINDS acceptable to contact by the end of the night. This is anethema to the DJ mindset.

 

[djbr]

A true PUA uses ANY situation to sarge women...

"uses" is not equal to "pay for".

 

[Fash]

"uses" is not equal to "pay for".

Sorry, i'm gonna have to step in here for a sec. Usually I just ignore silly comments, but not this one...

How is that paying for women? You telling me you've never paid to get into a club???

So if you pay entrance to a club, then go in and sarge women, it means you are paying for women???

Come on guys! think before you post crap on here.

 

[mrRuckus]

http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/tucker_goes_3-minute_dating_hilarity_ensues.phtml#625

 

[poohead]

i tend to agree with rollo.

i've been to a couple and the entire situation is skewed to make women feel like they are the prize. just the way they are sitting at their own tables like queens, and men have to go from table to table tends to reinforce this.

the guys who run this thing cater to them too. these guys are sleazebags. i was sitting on a break talking to a chick and one of the organizers comes up and asks her if she wants anything to drink, then go gets it for her. i was sitting right next to her and he didn't even bother to ask me. it's because they make their money from lonely afc's, and the more the attractive girls at these events the better.

it's the same dynamic as the personals sites - even a chick that gets an average amount of attention in everyday life gets an enormous amount of attention on personals sites/speed dating.

i'm staying away from this type of crap from now on.

 

[djbr]

Sorry, i'm gonna have to step in here for a sec. Usually I just ignore silly comments, but not this one...

You are welcome!

How is that paying for women? You telling me you've never paid to get into a club???

I didn't say paying for women, I said paying for OPPORTUNITIES TO SARGE. But yes, both are paying for women one way or another. You have to be uber-suave to NOT PAY FOR WOMEN AT ALL and still get insane amount of them.

So if you pay entrance to a club, then go in and sarge women, it means you are paying for women??

Yes, see there^^^^. In a sense, yes. We all pay for women one way or another, that's no issue. The problem with speed dating is that essentially you're paying to be put on a frame that you're better off avoiding. The problem is NOT the paying itself, although I think the beauty of DJing is putting as little money as possible on sarging activies, that is why I pointed the difference. See Rollo's post.

Come on guys! think before you post crap on here.

You and the guys who like speed dating may as well keep up with it. Do what works for you, no one here is sh1tting on you as long as you're enjoying it. But this is a discussion right? Being so, everyone can put their own point of view. I don't think you're and idiot and don't think you posted crap. You just have a different point of view and I added mine.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Alright then let's do a cost analysis.

For $30 I can hit a club and have a few drinks. This also grants me access to a far larger pool of potential women to sarge AND I have the freedom to select from the ones I find particularly attractive. Granted, the male competition is in effect, but then again I am choosing the club or venue where I will go so I can cherry pick the best place to go. In addition to this there is the likelihood that the women I'll sarge have already 'pre-boozed' and if there's dancing involved I have a better chance of effectively using kino. My $30 also buys me the opportunity to isolate a particular target and allows me to kiss close discreetly - again with a woman of MY choosing.

OR

I can spend $30 on a Speed Dating night where I am forced into an interview with a woman, not of my own choosing, for HER potential boyfriend/dating position where HER frame is already established. To my knowledge there is little or no alcohol involved. I have zero opportunity of isolating, I have zero opportunity of kiss closing, I have zero opportunity for using anything but simple kino, and while I can of course use basic PUA skills (C&F etc.), but anything that would require more than 3-4 minutes to develop is useless since I'm then forced to move on to the next girl that I may or may not even be attracted to. And finally, the very premise of organizing the event is to put these women into a position of selecting the men they are attracted to so I wouldn't even be allowed to number close assuming I could effect a successful sarge in the 5 minute interview.

It's not that you couldn't sarge at an SD event, it's whether you should bother that's at issue. What would serve to develop your PUA skills better? You could sarge strippers at a men's club too, does that make it worthwhile? What do you suppose the average age of the women who attend these things are? The women that go to these events are looking for LTR material and have trouble meeting guys, why do you suppose that is? At the end of the night she decides (based on the 5 minute interview) who she'll pursue by calling for a date, not you. Why do you suppose it's the women who run the interview? They could just as easily have the men sitting around at the tables and calling back the women they were interested in. What would you do if the fat chick you met kept calling you for a date since she thought you were interested? See what I mean?

I think a PUA efforts are much more educational and rewarding in a club setting, where he has to approach and interact. SD sets all of this up artificially and places the approach in the woman's frame. Yes, a good PUA can be a kid in a candy store at an SD, no doubt, but the fact is that these events are geared for guys who aren't PUAs to begin with and freeze at the prospect of having to approach under normal circumstances, and women who aren't accustomed to being hit on and are looking for LTRs.

 

[john_1234]

Ok...

I have booked my self and a friend in for a spot of speed dating this saturday night. Now, as many of you who know me may know, I do pretty well normally, so I don't NEED to go speed dating. This is the first time I'm doing this and I think it will be a fun and exciting thing to do.

For those of you who dont know what "Speed Dating" is, it is basically an event of 20 guys and 20 chicks in a bar with 20 tables. The women sit at a table, and the guys rotate every 3 minutes. So you meet and get to speak to each girl for 3 minutes. You then mark a yes/no/friends on the card you have. If you get a yes match with anyone, your contact details will be revealed to each other and you take it from there...

So...

Has anyone ever done this sort of thing? Do you guys have any tips and advice?

Maybe some cool questions to ask. Remember, you have 3 minutes to grab her attention and make her remember you. Even speed seduction needs more than 3 minutes!

Let the games begin!!!!!!!!

:woo: :woo: :woo:

haven't read the other posts and wouldn't be surprised if it was already mentioned... i personally know someone who coordinates these types of events. i hate to spoil it for you, but it is the truth... attractive women often times are hired to attend these events. maybe not all speeddating services do this, but if you really think about it, it makes no sense for attractive women to attend these speeddating services to begin with.

 

[Fash]

What would you do if the fat chick you met kept calling you for a date since she thought you were interested? See what I mean?

I hear what you're saying bro. I'm not sure how SD is done everywhere else, but here in the UK it works like this:

- Both the girl and the guy are given a card
- At the end of the 3 minute chat, they decide if they want to mark the other person as a Yes/No or "Friends only".
- When the girl and the guy get home, they log onto the SD website and upload their preferences for each person the spoke to
- ONLY if a guy and a girl BOTH tick "yes" to each other, will their contact details be revealed. If one ticks yes, and the other ticks NO, then nothing will happen, and so on... you get the picture

So really, this puts the emphasis on the women to work hard too. This is where DJ skills kick in. If you do the push pull thing, make her qualify her self to you, do a decent amount of c+f you'll do pretty well.

I think SD is a good idea but shouldnt be taken seriously. As I said, I go out and sarge ALL the time and will be sarging in the club afterwards, but I think the entertainment value will be great!

Reminds me of the 40 Year Old Virgin movie! bloody hilarious! :crackup: :crackup:

 

[DJDamage]

Reminds me of the 40 Year Old Virgin movie! bloody hilarious! :crackup: :crackup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S2jcMwKJ7Q&search=40 year old virgin