"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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spang

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im going to chronicle my approaches here so people can critique them. since i have trouble coming up with what to say to them exactly. feedback would help me a lot. i just went to walmart to get some stuff and because i was bored sitting at home alone. ive resolved that im going to approach them everyday now.
so i was in walmart around 11pm. i noticed this cute stocker girl who worked there. i walked back to talk to her but i chickened out and kept walking, she glanced at me. then i said **** it im doin this, i was almost to the cashier line, and i turned around and went back...

me: hey do you know where the chili is?
girl1: chili? yes its right over here.
me:thanks
girl1:no prob
(i bs'd around near the chili for a min, then walked back toward her)
me: i got spaghetteos instead. better than chili
girl1: awesome that is better
me: you look tired, have you worked night shift for long?
girl1: uh ive been on it for about 3 weeks. its not that bad. takes awhile to get used to it.
me: yeah i did it once. it messes with your...inner clock...biological clock, er messes with your head.
girl1: haha yeah. well we are going on vacation next week and that will really mess me up.(she went on about something else...)
me: well have fun
girl1: ok seeya

she was pretty nice, it was just when she said "we" i thought that might refer to her husband/fiance/kids. i also noticed a ring on her finger, looked like an engagement ring, but wasnt sure what it was, so i just back off and made my exit...that and i was out of stuff to say. im reading the DJ bible and im gonna practice everyday.
so in the future, if you see a ring, and youre not sure, should you ask about it or just back off?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ive also been messaging women on a dating website. i wont count those as approaches but i used it for practice. i understand now why my nice guy logical approach didnt work and that women make emotional decisions based on how they feel about you.
before, i would message girls on dating sites with "hey how are you? i liked your profile blah blah we have lots in common blah blah". i got basically no replies from a hundred women, maybe 2 half hearted replies. then i tried teasing and poking fun a little, saying things like "you look like trouble. you arent trouble are you?" and "youre a redhead, i bet youre trouble." or " why are you up so late, are you a party girl?".
i think i messaged 15 women in the past 2 days and i got back 6 replies haha. it did make a difference. so far no phone digits though.
anyway, just thought id share that. im going to school and the gym tomorrow so i will be surrounded by hotties. we'll see what i can find.
 

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spang said:
ive also been messaging women on a dating website. i wont count those as approaches but i used it for practice. i understand now why my nice guy logical approach didnt work and that women make emotional decisions based on how they feel about you.
before, i would message girls on dating sites with "hey how are you? i liked your profile blah blah we have lots in common blah blah". i got basically no replies from a hundred women, maybe 2 half hearted replies. then i tried teasing and poking fun a little, saying things like "you look like trouble. you arent trouble are you?" and "youre a redhead, i bet youre trouble." or " why are you up so late, are you a party girl?".
i think i messaged 15 women in the past 2 days and i got back 6 replies haha. it did make a difference. so far no phone digits though.
anyway, just thought id share that. im going to school and the gym tomorrow so i will be surrounded by hotties. we'll see what i can find.
I had a 30-50% response rate without even having a picture up. But the reality is that replies don't mean much. It takes about 15 seconds to reply. Not much of a time investment on her part. The reality is that you can get replies, but it won't go anywhere if she doesn't think you're good looking enough for her.

Remember, most girls are online because they have emotional issues and/or have unrealistic expectations relative to what they themselves have to offer. Any girl of quality is typically snagged up way before online dating has ever crossed her mind.
 

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well i didnt make it to the gym because im still a bit sick with sinus infection, but i did drag myself to class. trying to catch up on the material since i got behind. its hard to study when you feel like garbage and your brain isnt working. anyway i did talk to 2 girls. one who sits in front of me in class, i had seen her in a restaurant last week but i had never spoke to her.

me: hey whats up. i think i saw you in such and such restaurant last week.
girl2: yeah i was there.
me: its a great place isnt it?
girl2: yeah its pretty good.
me: i just hate i cant go there more often because its expensive.
girl2: ha yeah...
then the guy next to her said something and i lost her attention....then the class resumed.

girl3 was a girl from another class i bumped into later...

me: hey how you been?
girl3: fine.
(she kept on walking)
me:...
me:(mumbling to myself) yeah im good thanks for asking.

rough day. spang is sick and afflicted. maybe i will be able to get to the gym tomorrow at least for a while. oh well, spang trudges onward....
 

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got the chance to talk to a girl in my lab class today finally. i was teasing her a little. she kept dropping stuff, then later almost broke the lab equipment by accident lol. shes a bit younger than me...like 19-20 i think. not a lot i can do it seems. also i think she has a bf.
after she almost knocked a whole in the ceiling with a long ruler...

me: you havent been drinkin have you? (with an evil grin)
girl4: haha no i havent
me: did you stay out late partying last night?
girl4: no no no
me: yeah right....you look a bit tired
girl4: actually yesterday some random guy asked me to a party at such and such place(some place in the hood), but i said no i dont go to places like that.
me: haha why didnt you go. you gotta have some fun once in a while.

after the lab was over i saw her outside
girl4: bye, spang!
me: bye, girl4!
me: dont party too hard ok!
girl4: haha i wont anymore i promise!

least i got something out of her. this girl is very hot, at least a 9. god i would love to plow her. im slowly learning to tease them, though i dont feel very good at it. i still feel really awkward approaching, especially when have to say random things. i can disguise the awkwardness i feel. at least i get some practice.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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went back to starbucks tonight and hung out there for a bit before going to see the dark knight. there was a cute red head who worked there....

girl5: i like your shirt
me: oh thankyou
me: are you a killswitch engage fan(my shirt)
girl5: yes i like them. anything is better than the crappy music they play here.
me: ah
then they made my coffee and i sat down for a minute. she came out by the tables...
me:hey
girl5: yeah?
me: you were right they do play crappy music in here
girl5: haha lucky you dont have to work here
me: can you change the station?
girl5: nope its looped on a cd or something
me: that sucks. you should bring a metal cd to work and put it in
girl5: haha i would get fired
girl5: hey what math are you in?(she noticed the math book i was reading)
me: calculus 2
girl5: i need a math tutor in algebra. im so gonna fail. are you any good at math?
me: yeah algebra is easy. i am in cal 2 now after all. we could study together sometime if you like?
girl5: i dont know blah blah yak yak(she went on about something in algebra)

then she went on cleaning tables and stuff in the lobby. basically ignored my offer to help. i dont get why she asked in the first place. fickle as hell i guess.
 

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this is still frustrating. i mean i know how women are, but talking to them is like eating glass to me, its still really hard. sometimes i just want to give up.
 

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all right its a new school year and im back in the saddle. today this girl sitting beside me in my programming class kept stretching and accidentally brushing against me.
HB7:eek:h im sorry
ME: thats ok.
(HB7 does the same thing again 15 minutes later)
HB7: im sorry i keep doing that haha
ME: we just keep bumping into each other dont we.
HB7: haha i know. my fault.
what i really wanted to say was "hey look if you keep touching on me youre gonna have to buy me dinner or im gonna have to buy you dinner or a drink or something", with a sly grin. but i didnt say it. dammit dammit dammit. spang chokes again.:mad:

approached another girl in the library later...
ME: hey are you in chemistry by any chance, i noticed you were reading about minerals....
HB8.5: hi. oh no im studying earth science...
we talked for about 5 minutes and it turned out she was from my hometown. small world. she was fairly nice. anyway it went on...
HB8.5: yeah my husband was in chemical engineering and he dropped out. now hes getting a job in the coal mine.
ME: (husband?, abort mission!)
ME: i think i would have stayed in school.
HB8.5: yeah he should have.

im gonna make at least 10 girls reject me this week. i guess thats one. i think im getting better at this.
and serisously who quits school to work in a coal mine?:confused: i should have said "you picked a real winner didnt ya?" im not sure where to draw the line on smartass remarks. i guess thats the reason i have a hard time saying them. that i will hurt their feelings or something.
 

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well ive suffered thru about 8 rejections this week, 3 today. i wont post any convos because there is too much to explain. i didnt ask for numbers or anything just approached and made conversation. 3 were kind of rude in particular, pretty much told me to **** off. i mean wouldnt even talk to me.
the last one the irritated me was this girl in the gym. she was playing basketball alone and so was i.
me: hey you wanna play a game of one on one?
her: umm no im about to have to leave. sorry
me: oh ok.
i kept shooting by myself for like another 45 minutes. she was still there. stupid ho. wont even play a game of hoops with me.
there was however one girl who actually talked to me this week. i sparked a conversation with her, and she actually asked questions about me. shes really cute and i think she is in a sorority. i made her laugh a few times. i feel like she wouldnt want anything to do with me though, i mean lets be realistic. prolly has a bf anyway.
arrrrgh somebody give me some advice on what im doing wrong so i can get laid again before i fvcking die.
 
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