SoSuave Personality Disorder

[narcissist]

The natural progression of personal and psychological development as I see it is that we go our own way to end up at the same place. By this I mean we overcome ourselves for others. The magnitude of your power over others is determined by how much you care about others. Every single person that has achieved something big made a huge impact on others, including Neil Strauss, Tyler/Owen (RSD), Albert Einstein, Morgan Freeman, Socrates, Aristotle and the list goes on and on. They all lived for something bigger than themselves for the good of others. When you really focus it down you end up finding "the one", but it's through understanding that we keep together.

Very true.

But would you agree that these goals/dreams and what they accomplished were of their own making?

I believe that these philosophers/puas/physicists or whoever found THEIR passion and tackled it relentlessly. It was a mere by product that it affected so many people.

And the reason why it affected and benefited so many others in the course of them tackling these dreams relentlessly and selfishly was simply because they put ALL of their focus on it and became the best at what they did. Which, as a result, caused them to contribute vast amounts to their field.

I dont really see how someones goals if they are tackling their goals untiringly could affect only themselves?

Everyone is wrapped up in society and unless their goals are to go into the forest and live as a nomadic hunter/gatherer than it is inevitable that what they accomplish will in fact affect other people beneficially.

But I see what you are saying. I think the best goal for all of humanity is if we all work towards goals that ultimately benefits others.

But regardless, we should all be striving for something that goes beyond the basic male drive of pvssy. We need to give ourselves a greater purpose in life. Invariably, it will help us with vag, but that isn't the reason to do it.

 

[Mr Wright]

Devils advocate

Guys who say they're doing something for themselves are lying to themselves. Nature is completely in control, you have a conscious but it is restricted to the point where you can only act within the parameters that nature has set. In our case we can not engage in anything that strays too far from the end goal of humanity replication and survival. Most things that interest you will not be too far removed from those two things.

Have you noticed that most acts that better ourselves do inadvertently get us women, this is no mistake. This comes down to the similar argument that no act can be truly altruistic because you will always be serving yourself in some way, even if it's just the ego validation. It's a natural by product, which cannot be avoided so why pretend otherwise.

Now lets look at the things which guys want to do which "better themselves"...drum roll

1) Going to the gym: Guys say they're going to the gym to look better for themselves and keep their body healthy. But it actually means nothing apart from making you more attractive to women and making you healthier. This reflects better on your genes and your replication and survival rating has gone up. Damn mind making you all sexy and crap.

2) Guy wants to earn more money: Money gives you independence but it also gets you vagina. How often do you see a man with a massive house, nice car, all the perks he could dream of with no woman to share it with? Unless he's gay. Never. Getting money is gaining independence to a point but past a certain point it's a means to an end. If you have the most money, you have the most "resources" and thus are more attractive to women. Uh oh your body again, made you "accidentally" became sexy.

I've sat here for a few minutes and tried to think of a few things that people do that is completely unrelated to the "end goal" of getting a woman and I've come up with...meditation and spirituality. You could add a few more things but the list would be short because in a round about way, it will come back to vagina.

Our bodies and minds get us to do things all the time without realising it, we're animals we have innate releasing mechanisms. You can pretend to yourself that you don't need vagina but you're fighting a losing battle because even by telling yourself that you can't do something it's still controlling your life. It's still a focal point because you're actively ignoring it, like recovering drug addicts, they've never really properly kicked the habit until they're dead.


You don't think if there was a way guys could get taller, they wouldn't jump on that and be like "I'm doing this for myself"...but we know it would be for vagina.

 

[narcissist]

I was actually waiting for someone to play what i like to call lucifer's advocate.

Firstly, I would like to say that of course we are bound by nature. It is literally impossible to distinguish us from natural processes. We are biological machines comprised of an amalgamation of atoms, which together make chemical compounds, thus set in a specific order make us. Beings that are bound by the need for sustenance, oxygen, water, so on and so forth. Yes, you are completely right, we must submit our selves to nature (nature as in the universe not biological processes). BUT, the reason why we need to submit ourselves to nature is because WE ARE PART of it.

Humans LOVE to form a distinction between the dichotomy of human beings and the universe itself. This is a ridiculous thing to do. We are part of the universe, created by it through natural selection,and other processes which make us what we are today.

But you know what human beings have the uncanny ability to do? Question nature and its existence, and whether its processes are more efficient then the ones we can come up with. A better way to put it is nature created us in order to make processes more efficient through technology. We are a biological machine created by nature in order to perpetuate technology to make natural processes quicker and more efficient. Essentially, we have, time and time again overcome biological barriers for our benefit.

Here are a couple of examples.

1) Communication: Biology tells us that we should only feasibly be able to communicate in front of each other, because our biology obviously didnt evolve with telepathy.

What we did to overcome that: We invented cells phones that send frequencies to space at unfathomable speeds in order to talk to a person thousands of kilometres away. We have devised instant messaging which is basically just a series of 0's and 1's in code that gets scrambled up and sent to other computers or phones and reforms it self in seconds. Biology states we should not be able to do this. But we have overcome biological barriers.

2) Transportation: Biology tells us that we should only be able to transport ourselves on our two feet bipedally and at most increase our accelaration by running.

how we overcame that: at first we used biology to overcome biology by riding other animals. But human nature overcomes biological barriers time and time again. We invented cars, bicycles, motorcycles, trains, monorails, jets, helecopters, spacecrafts. The list goes on and on. Eventually we will have technology which transports us to different planetary systems. A feat that our biology would never imagine could happen.

3) Reproduction: biology tells us that we should only be able to reproduce if we are fertile, and we cannot have sex unless the prospect of reproduction is at play.

how we overcame that: well i wont get to into this one because the field of medicine that concerns it self with reproduction is huge. I will just say that we can produce babies in labs, and we can over come reproduction vastly, were if a person is infertile they may still have the chance at have kids. We also have manipulated chemistry for our benefit by coming up with pharmecutical compounds that allow us to have sex without the prospect of having a child. These are namely called contraceptives.

By the way i am vastly underestimating the amount of times we have overcome biological barriers. these are a few sh*tty examples.

Anyways i know im going way off topic but i just wanted to show you that humans have the uncanny ability to diverge from biological barriers. We are NOT different from "nature" (everything in the universe) BUT we can diverge from what biology tells us to do.

This brings me to my final point.

If we can diverge from what biological processes tells us to do, then we most certainly can diverge from the prospect of living our lives solely for the purposes of having sex. It is a hard feat to accomplish mind you, for i believe that many man cannot move past this worldly vice. But it IS possible, we are not BOUND by biological barriers. In fact each day we are moving further and further away from biological barriers and moving more towards technological utopia. Some will even postulate that we will move beyond our biological bodies into technological machines but that is a debate for another day my friend.

But you make a good point. And i have taken it into consideration, for i live by the saying "question everything" even myself, so what i say here today is not absolute truth so please counter argue me.

 

[narcissist]

Even if you are right Mr Wright, I will continue justifying to myself that your prospect is wrong because I dont want to consciously know that all my actions are for vagina. I would rather keel over a die. If that is the purpose to all of my behaviours and goals and ambitions is just for a womans reproductive organ, than what the hell is the point of living? hahaha.

I would rather trick myself into believing that I am accomplishing my goals for a higher purpose and that the reason behind my goals and ambitions is to help all of the world and everyone in it, without the prospect that its just for vag. Because fvck would that ever be a de-motivater if everything i do in this life was for that purpose only.

 

[Adz--]

Brilliant post! OP!

This is one of the most brilliant posts i have read!, tbh i think the main message of the post that is to Work hard for yourself and not for P*ssy should be added to the bible!

This post reminds me of the Book of Pook!

Now i will admit that the reason why i came on this forum in the first place was because of a women, but after reading the bible, red pill and the Book of Pook i have come to realize, That yes it is nice to have women left right and center but for what gain? Just getting laid?
Now don't get me wrong getting laid is great but is getting laid going to pay my bills? get me a job? get me an education?
No it isn't.

Put it this way if you stopped getting V*g or women wouldnt take a second glance at you or let alone speak to you would your drop dead?

However some may not understand or grasp this concept.

narcissist great post! i cannot stress this enough

Just my 2pence/cents kicked in

adz--

 

[Mr Wright]

Even if you are right Mr Wright, I will continue justifying to myself that your prospect is wrong because I dont want to consciously know that all my actions are for vagina. I would rather keel over a die. If that is the purpose to all of my behaviours and goals and ambitions is just for a womans reproductive organ, than what the hell is the point of living? hahaha.

I would rather trick myself into believing that I am accomplishing my goals for a higher purpose and that the reason behind my goals and ambitions is to help all of the world and everyone in it, without the prospect that its just for vag. Because fvck would that ever be a de-motivater if everything i do in this life was for that purpose only.

Lol whether you want to accept it or not, your social purpose in life is to survive and reproduce. I've done a lot of reading about animal behaviour recently and they rarely do anything that is not related to those two things. Your gift of life and consciousness comes with a caveat, to make sure you try and continue it on for future generations. It's all a little sad when you think about it in those terms but I'm literally just doing what I feel like. If I feel like chasing vagina, I'll do that and when I feel like doing something else I do that.

It's all ego trying to not get too wrapped up in vagina, I don't feel like it's coming from a genuine place, it seems too forced like a child refusing to eat his veg because their parent won't let them play outside. If you had a steady stream of women would you still be saying the same thing with that much passion? Yeah, you might say, life isn't just about chicks but they make a bloody good hobby. That's all this should ever be, a glorified hobby, whilst improving your life. My life right now is pretty much education, the occasional game of rugby and a few nights out with the boys, all of which inadvertently brings in girls so I'm lucky to still have a decent sex life. Why should I pass up sex? Just to make a point?

As I said before, I think this is all a facade and a pipe dream because as long as you're on this site, you're showing how much you care about vagina. If you want to be truly independent of women you would be able to log out, never log back in and just do these things you want to do.

 

[narcissist]

Lol whether you want to accept it or not, your social purpose in life is to survive and reproduce. I've done a lot of reading about animal behaviour recently and they rarely do anything that is not related to those two things. Your gift of life and consciousness comes with a caveat, to make sure you try and continue it on for future generations. It's all a little sad when you think about it in those terms but I'm literally just doing what I feel like. If I feel like chasing vagina, I'll do that and when I feel like doing something else I do that.

It's all ego trying to not get too wrapped up in vagina, I don't feel like it's coming from a genuine place, it seems too forced like a child refusing to eat his veg because their parent won't let them play outside. If you had a steady stream of women would you still be saying the same thing with that much passion? Yeah, you might say, life isn't just about chicks but they make a bloody good hobby. That's all this should ever be, a glorified hobby, whilst improving your life. My life right now is pretty much education, the occasional game of rugby and a few nights out with the boys, all of which inadvertently brings in girls so I'm lucky to still have a decent sex life. Why should I pass up sex? Just to make a point?

As I said before, I think this is all a facade and a pipe dream because as long as you're on this site, you're showing how much you care about vagina. If you want to be truly independent of women you would be able to log out, never log back in and just do these things you want to do.

Very true. And very well stated.

I think that the topic is up for debate and there is no absolutist point of view on the matter, that is for sure.

As much as I propagate these ideologies I have a problem with following through. I am still bound by vagina myself like I said in the first post (i have sosuave personality disorder), that is why I continue to post on this site. But I am making a concerted effort to push my motivation for sex to the back burner and move my motivation for my goals and aspirations to the forefront and get to a point where I dont need to live with vag.

As for now, I am the type of guy that has to rotate at least 2 girls at any given time, and to me its a huge distraction from relentlessly accomplishing my goals

That is why I am working towards the point where I can have buddhist monk like detachment from worldly vices, like sex and the need for social validation. Its been done before, and it can be done again.

 

[Mr Wright]

As for now, I am the type of guy that has to rotate at least 2 girls at any given time, and to me its a huge distraction from relentlessly accomplishing my goals

Maybe, you just need to work on the levels of commitment you are putting out with these girls. If you set the frame right early, it can be as time consuming as you allow it to be. If you just want sex, just have sex then make it clear that's it. If it's sex and dinner once a week, then make it clear that's what you want.

I know how you feel when you feel like girls are getting in your way, it's infuriating because these girls who wont be here forever are impacting on your future but this is where you have to be ruthless and trust yourself. Tell them straight up how it is, if they don't like it, they leave and you get what you need to get done and if they accept what you say, you can have your cake and eat it too. Personally, I couldn't go cold turkey on girls, I just like them too much but as long as you are aware of your priorities and act accordingly then girls shouldn't be too much of an issue.

 

[narcissist]

I see what you are saying. And I have to agree with you.

I have a weakness for women, and it would be unbelievably hard for me to go cold turkey on them. I will continue having sex with them.

The main point I think I was trying to make in this entire post was to reach a point where women no longer emotionally affect me, where if they stop giving me what I want I can drop them without repercussion, you know?

Because I believe that becoming emotionally invested in women is one of the biggest distractions one can have in their life. Obviously it would be an aimless endeavour to eradicate women from my life completely, theres no question there. But I think im transitioning into the next phase of my don juanist journey, which is to emotionally detach myself from the inevitable rejections, and inevitable disappointments of women and relationships.

Move to a point where I no longer get jealous, envious. Where I no longer develop oneitis. Where a woman I have been sleeping with goes to another dude doesnt affect me whatsoever.

I want to reach a point of non-attachment/non-affectivity.

Do you think that is a possibility Mr Wright? and if so How do you think it is achievable? I would be very curious to hear what you have to say about that.

 

[Mr Wright]

I see what you are saying. And I have to agree with you.

I have a weakness for women, and it would be unbelievably hard for me to go cold turkey on them. I will continue having sex with them.

The main point I think I was trying to make in this entire post was to reach a point where women no longer emotionally affect me, where if they stop giving me what I want I can drop them without repercussion, you know?

Because I believe that becoming emotionally invested in women is one of the biggest distractions one can have in their life. Obviously it would be an aimless endeavour to eradicate women from my life completely, theres no question there. But I think im transitioning into the next phase of my don juanist journey, which is to emotionally detach myself from the inevitable rejections, and inevitable disappointments of women and relationships.

Move to a point where I no longer get jealous, envious. Where I no longer develop oneitis. Where a woman I have been sleeping with goes to another dude doesnt affect me whatsoever.

I want to reach a point of non-attachment/non-affectivity.

Do you think that is a possibility Mr Wright? and if so How do you think it is achievable? I would be very curious to hear what you have to say about that.

I can only speak for myself but for me the emotions come with the sex. For that moment when I'm with someone, I just let go and embrace the emotions, you know when you're shagging someone and it's so good you feel like you love them. I like that feeling, if I didn't feel that I don't think sex would be as good.

Just because something is inevitable like rejection, it doesn't mean you should avoid it. I think being a man means you have to take the rough with the smooth, sometimes things are sh1t but there's no point completely denying yourself of something due to fear. Instead build yourself up to learn how to deal with rejection better, if you can do that, you will be a machine because you can still have all the positive emotions without fearing what's going to happen if it all goes wrong. That is true inner game, being able to deal with bad situations.

This site offers preventative measure after preventative measure and it just screams immaturity and insecurity. Guys wouldn't recommend not starting a business because there's a high chance it would fail. They'd tell you to go and take the shot, if you succeed well done. If you fail, get back on the horse and try again. But they then don't pay the same respect to relationships when the 'success' rates are similar. You have 80 odd years on this Earth, running away and blocking everything out isn't going to lead you to living a full life.

Awareness is half the battle. If you can be objective about your own life and say "right now, I need to be doing XYZ and this and this is getting in the way, so they have to go on the back burner." I think game is mostly about awareness anyway, if guys knew what girls in the room were interested in them because they have a massive sign over their heads, this site wouldn't exist. If you're aware of what you're feeling and the implications of it, you're in a much better position because you know what's coming, it's no longer overwhelming. When something crappy happens to me, I just give myself time to wallow and feel like sh1t, you need that time because it's natural.

I think it is possible to detach yourself emotionally, it will take a long time but it's possible but I just question the reasons why you want to do it.