"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This forum has been pretty helpful for me over the last couple of years. It has opened my eyes to some of the reasons why women act the way they do. "Know thy enemy", indeed.

I just got off the phone with a girl that I went on a few dates with. When I said goodnight to her on our last date she said something about calling me. After that I decided I'd wait for her to call. After a week and a half, no call. I assumed a loss of interest on her part, and blew it off. However, this chick is probably the hottest girl I've ever had sex with. Very hot. Hard to let that go. So today I decided to call again. No answer, but instantly she calls back. She's nice on the phone and is curious why I didn't call her earlier.

Lesson learned. Maybe I had it wrong, but I've let several women go because I thought I detected a lack of interest. Guys, for now on I'm not going to worry so much about interest level. Seriously, this interest level stuff is good, but I just discovered that I've been thinking about it too much, and it has been hindering my game about as much as it helps me. Maybe it isn't so bad to come across as having a high level of interest in the girl. I think from now on I'll wait on the 'hard to get' routine until 5 or 6 dates.

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BxPrince24

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I believe that even if you're playing hard to get, a week and a half was a pretty long wait. I would have called her on the 3-4th day after the last time I saw her and see what happens from there.
 

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Yeah, I guess after two dates it isn't so bad if the girl isn't calling you yet.

One other question (rather than creating a new topic): We had sex the morning after I first met her. Yeah, I know, yay me - bar game is improving. It wasn't the greatest - I'm still working on my bed game as well haha. The two dates after we don't have sex, just make out a little. She says she has to go home after both dates because her dad will be waiting up for her. She's 21, so I guess it's no big deal that she's living with her parents (although I'm 24, and thought I was past those days).

Once again, I may have overreacted in reading this. I thought that one of two things was going on. 1) The sex wasn't spectacular the first time, so she's not all that interested in having it again, or 2) She doesn't want the first sexual episode to make her look like a *****, so she's holding back to prove her innocence. She says that was the first time she's gone home from the bar with someone.

Thoughts on that one?
 

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that was the first time she's gone home from the bar with someone.

Maybe she means that particular establishment. Women always play down their experience. It is normal.
 

BxPrince24

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I believe she's holding back. Why may be a different story. It coulda been you. She could be insecure about herself. She could had told a close friend what happened and don't want to seem like a slut so she's trying to hold out before she does it again. Who knows.

But what you can do is work on your bed game. Your rhythm. Mastering having multiple orgasms without losing your hard, foreplay, pleasing her as well as yourself.

Maybe the reason she leaves is because she's not worked up enough. Get that foreplay kicking.
 

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Pilot, I've got a little hot/cold foreplay trick I can give you. A preacher's daughter taught me this one. PM me if you're interested.
 

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WTF? Let her go ... It's easy. Get tong-hockey at least with three women at one night - she will diasappear from your mind like a bad memory! Works for me
 

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Baby steps.... plus, I'm not sure I want to be sharing spit with 3 chicks every weekend night. Anyone say herpes? AAAAAAGH. Actually, I think getting herpes could be liberating. Once you get it, don't have to worry about getting it. I could go down on more chicks more often. As it stands I only go down on chicks I have a relationship with.
 
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