"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I thought this was very interesting:

PLEASE NOTE ME FIRST IF YOU WANNA BE MY BUDDY...


BUT DONT NOTE ME SOME STUPID **** LIKE, "I THINK YOURE CUTE, CAN I BE YOUR FRIEND?" OMG, PLEASE, STRIKE UP A CONVERSATION WITH ME... TRY SOMETHING MORE ORIGINAL THAN, "HOW ARE YOU," OR, "HOW WAS YOUR DAY?" PLEASE... IF YOURE A SUPER KICK ASS PERSON, IM SURE YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING INTERESTIN TO CHOP IT UP WITH ME, DEAL? :)


im here to meet some kick ass people with kick ass personalities... no uppity yuppie jackingtons please, and ONLY people that gots a personality and mind of their own... i despise people with no creative mind of their own...
I WARN YA' ILL COME OFF LIKE A ***** IN THESE NEXT FEW PARAGRAPHS...

what the hell?!@ DO YOU PEOPLE THINK IM STUPID?! im not gonna describe the ULTIMATE BLUEPRINT as to who my dream soul mate would be so you scrubs can trick my ass into getting with u fools!!! HELL, SURPRISE ME :) -tell me who i SHOULD be meeting... BUT NOTE ME FIRST!!! i wont socialize with people that simply try to ADD me... i refuse to be just another face amongst the vast sea of other faces... i actually want to have a short conversation wit u people...

OH YEAH, i REFUSE to add any males that have another female up in their picture... i mean how disrespectful is that to the lady in the picture with them?! SHEESH! some people are just dumbassed. so i wont add anyone that has their profile pic with a lady in it - ie: prom pics or whatever... got it?

oh yea... haha, ill ADD ALL HOT CHICKS that message me too... simply cuz i can appreciate beauty when it comes to ladies... and i respect them for more than they actually are worth, because any female that is my buddy is smart enough to hold a conversation with me... I HATE GUYS THAT USE ME FOR MY LADIES ON MY LIST.

...and NO, i am not interested in chatting via AIM.ICQ.YAHOO... whatever to get to know you first off the bat... ****, read my profile if you wanna get to know me... not be all ****ed up or anything, i just dont wanna add people that will just talk to me about nothing. message me, i will do my best to respond... and then we'll become buddies... ;) ... but there is this one **** that just doesnt get it: I HATE PEOPLE THAT MESSAGE ME "yo ma' lemme holla at you, you got AIM or sumn so we can chat it up?" ...morons, you dont know anything about me to want to know me - HOW DO I KNOW THIS?! simple: if your dumbass read my profile, you would already know i despise chattin it up as i said earlier... OXYMORONS...

today, i got a message from a fed up myspace user that most definitely did NOT read my profile... i have noticed his attempts to message me several times with the typical messages that DONT catch my attention... so i suppose he finally got fed up and messaged me with this:

dang girl. r u like da grinch or scrooge on xmas nite. cuz i know ive messaged u many times but u can even respond back, get at me girl u to shady or to fly for this pinoy?

and now he has continued to message me with **** like this that i happen to think that he copied and pasted over and over again, sending me the same damned message:

Hey what up girl, juss stroolin' round your page, and your lookin pretty cute. Well anyways, juss get @ me back if you want & maybe we can be coo up in this my space boogie thang. A'rite peace out 4 now.

you see... i dont message people that expect me to handout my sn to them right away with nothing that peaks my interest... sure, you may think im stuck up if i dont respond to your messages... but shouldnt that tell you something? maybe you shoulda tried harder to start an interesting conversation or maybe you just didnt put much thought into being my friend... cuz honestly - i could give a **** less what you think of me - it says i can come off like a ***** if you dont message me correctly... and honestly, i would love to be everyone's friend... but what for really? i am no one special or out of the ordinary...

here is the idiot that posted all this ****..




I AM NOT HERE TO COLLECT SOULS ON MY FRIENDS LIST... thinking that they are my friends simply cuz they asked to be my friend. what has society come to to make some idiots think that a face on your profile page is supposedly a true friend... its sad that people do that to make up for their lack of socialization skills...

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With that said, How would you message her? lol.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Originally posted by Joe The Homophobe
I wouldn't message her. She obviously wants attention and her acting all angry is a cover for this. If she is so demanding she better be a 10 on the ratings scale.
Yeah right. Even if she were a 10 on the looks scale, I'd still say the same thing.
 

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Actually I wouldn't, she's stuck up, self-absorbed and thinks too much of herself and also thinks she can boss people around. Rather than a message I'd send her a mailbomb.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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say, "hey, you are rather stuck up in a cute kind of way".
 

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I think there is a lot to learn from this. i.e. you don't impress women with illiterate "gangsta talk" or persistence or flat out compliments, for a start.
 
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It's apparent that she's pissed off and not very receptive, but did you guys pay attention to what she was griping about? She literally listed the things that cause women to put up their b1tch shields.

Her lists contains just about every thing that a typical AFC does on an approach. This makes him look like every other guy. Think about it, what if every woman that approached you said "Nice weather we're having, huh?"

It seems to me that she just wants guys to actually make an effort when approaching her. Not to approach timidly to look for some type of approval from her to continue, she wants someone to approach her with something original to say.

All this leads back to is guys having good communication skills to gain rapport. Make a real effort to approach with something that does not only start a conversation but something that would sustain one. Also, don't expect the woman to do all of the work.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
It's apparent that she's pissed off and not very receptive, but did you guys pay attention to what she was griping about? She literally listed the things that cause women to put up their b1tch shields.

Her lists contains just about every thing that a typical AFC does on an approach. This makes him look like every other guy. Think about it, what if every woman that approached you said "Nice weather we're having, huh?"

It seems to me that she just wants guys to actually make an effort when approaching her. Not to approach timidly to look for some type of approval from her to continue, she wants someone to approach her with something original to say.

All this leads back to is guys having good communication skills to gain rapport. Make a real effort to approach with something that does not only start a conversation but something that would sustain one. Also, don't expect the woman to do all of the work.
Absolutely true!! I can't agree more in fact. I think every guy should read this and learn from it. Maybe this will explain why women shoot you down on approach.

Now it doesn't mean you must come up with an original or witty oneliner - far from it. You need to drop oneliners altogether, get to know her, talk to her about something that interests her and build rapport based on this.

I read her profile and I realised she isn't as bad as I first judged her to be. I expect that if you mailed her referring to some of her interests and the points she makes in her profile, you would get a polite and positive response.

If you paid attention to her profile, you will notice that she is very opinionated and wants respect for her intelligence and her views. She is a wannabe intellectual (she reads a Aldous Huxley and a dictionary!!) so your approach should reflect such similarities.

Using street talk and admiring her body totally undermines her intelligence and everything she has written in her profile.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I just looked over her page.


In the looks department she's doing fairly well...its hard to tell from the picture nonetheless.

Pros-

She plays Ragnarok Online - a pimp a$$ mmorpg.
Work experience
Watches good TV shows (not that superficial crap)
Likes Brave New World - Aldous Huxley...not a dumb bird


Women are much more prone to being influenced by their surroundings. She's probably getting a lot of male attention, hence the attitude. In conclusion, watch out for girls who talk/write excessively about themselves and show temper. Once you stop their egotrip, you don't know what you are gonna get. The pros do not outweigh the cons.
 

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I didn't bother reading past a few sentences of what she wrote before I got bored of her long winded rant, but I'll say this much, if she wants a guy to write her something original and interesting, maybe she should come off as sounding more approachable. Coming up with something clever to say, and specific to the girl based on her profile takes a bit of time, something I wouldn't waste on such an apparently bitter chick that probably wouldn't even appreciate it. When your chances of finding a good quality attractive chick that even messages you back and shows genuine interest is slim, who has time to waste sending messages other then short invitation notes like "Hey you seem pretty interesting, if you'd like to chat get back to me"?
 

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Read between the lines.

She's a man-hater,I wouldn't even giver her the time of day.
 

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Sh1t, I like this girl...We like alot of the same sh1t and feel the same way about alot of things...Plus people say I come on too strong and this girl seems like she can handle it, I dont like weak ass b1tches...Matter of fact, Ive been trying to find a girl like this for awhile, but they are rare...
 

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Originally posted by TheInfamousCBear
Sh1t, I like this girl...We like alot of the same sh1t and feel the same way about alot of things...Plus people say I come on too strong and this girl seems like she can handle it, I dont like weak ass b1tches...Matter of fact, Ive been trying to find a girl like this for awhile, but they are rare...
I hear what you're saying, she's definitely different from the norm. The cool thing about her I bet is that she wouldn't pull any sh1t tests or would have to wonder what she wants. She's more like a guy than most women in that she doesn't fvck around about her feelings.

I like women like that too but sometimes you have to put them in check if they do get besides themselves. It's good that they're opinionated and confident about their needs, but when they cross over into being disrespectful, a guy would have to put his foot down.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia

I like women like that too but sometimes you have to put them in check if they do get besides themselves. It's good that they're opinionated and confident about their needs, but when they cross over into being disrespectful, a guy would have to put his foot down.
But thats common sense though...
 

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She's all talk and no action.
She's not the only girl online who gives this huge rant about what they want and who they can point at and stuff...but when it all comes down to it, its just a power trip. They love getting pm's from guys with little flake messages like " hey sup?" because it gives them the power to ignore. They love getting different messages from guys that are a little clever because it lets them know that some poor shmuck out there was slaving over what to type without insulting or disgusting ms. I want perfection only. More or less, its indirect attention for an attention W H O R E.

Truth is she wants a guy with a six pack to give her sex. She is acting like she owns the place because the only thing that she understands is sexual attraction, yet a bunch of idiots who play video games think that because they have "something in common" that she'll be interested...hell no! So, any of you hot guys out there jump on this one with a 'hey sup?" message and I bet you'll be shagging her in no time flat.
 

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the one thing that I've learned is that hot girls like you more after you make fun of them in some kind of way.

For example, there is a hot girl at work who would never say a word to any guy including me. While she was working with some other women I went over and struck up a conversation with them. I said, "You mean this girl here. actually has a use? wow i never realized that". The hot girl laughed at it. Since then every time she walks by my office she smiles and says high.

Most guys are just too AFC to make fun of a hot girl.
 

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Maybe that's why gay guys "get the chicks" because if a girl is hot and the guy just snobs her and isn't AFC I guess women are attracted to that. But I'd like to see a DJ see what moves they can play with this chick.
 

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Originally posted by unistork
Maybe that's why gay guys "get the chicks" because if a girl is hot and the guy just snobs her and isn't AFC I guess women are attracted to that. But I'd like to see a DJ see what moves they can play with this chick.
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Dude, she's still gonna be like any average girl. Stop putting her above you. She's not even that hot and is hella skanky in her other pics. Also, her bf is just a random chubby dude. Girls can say all they want online, but when they meet a real man in person, they know when to shut up and be quiet.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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