All this talk from women saying there are no "real men" out there any more really gets on my nerves. I understand women don't want a guy they can walk all over but no is one perfect. I read this woman's profile on plentyoffish a couple weeks back and she said that she has met several guy's off there and they have great and have turned into really good friends but she is looking for the real deal. That's a slap in the face to those guy's and rest of us out here that are still trying and getting rejected. I seriously wanted to to stick my hands through the monitor and shake the **** out of her. I don't understand how society allows women to determine what real men are when they aren't men and have no idea what its like to be one. I don't feel like I can be a human being when out with a woman, I have to be this masculine ideal she got out of a romance novel. If I do show any flaws or make mistakes, I'm kicked to the curb.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
something that gets on my nerves
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Bible_Belt
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women saying there are no "real men" out there any more
The ones I see saying that are all either fat, or have kids they want you to adopt, or usually both.
The ones I see saying that are all either fat, or have kids they want you to adopt, or usually both.
taiyuu_otoko
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She can meet and reject whoever she wants, and by complaining that there are no "real men" out there, she gets to blame the world instead of the real problem, which is her ugly ass self.
That's like going to the local flea market and trying to sell an old worthless pair of shoes, and then complaining how there are no "real" customers, only worthless tire kickers.
That's like going to the local flea market and trying to sell an old worthless pair of shoes, and then complaining how there are no "real" customers, only worthless tire kickers.
jophil28
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You don't have to fit any imaginary ideal at all. A woman is not the arbiter of acceptable male behavior UNLESS you give her the power to be so.Hammer79 said:
Perhaps the core of your dilemma is that you are focussed on shaping and molding your behavior to elicit female approval.
The irony is this - the harder that you alter your behavior to get her to like you, the less that she will like you.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Don't cater to a b**ch. Change only for yourself.
Women complain about the real men because they want a dream guy (rich, famous, uber handsome, and probably got access to drugs.) and can't find him, so they have to settle.
Women complain about the real men because they want a dream guy (rich, famous, uber handsome, and probably got access to drugs.) and can't find him, so they have to settle.
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One more girl who's frustrated that she can't find the 'right' guy, I lost count.
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Yeah, you can definitely tell when their profile is more of a rant than an actual profile.
I saw one just last week:
"if I look like I'm out of your league.....I am so don't contact me"
"please don't message me if you have bare chest photos on your profile or wear loose saggy jeans or your hat sideways"
funny $hit.
On another related note, I was discussing with my sister all the B$ we have to go through to get the attraction going AKA not
really being ourselves naturally. She said she's frustrated as well, like when she likes a guy and they don't contact her for
several days just to keep from seeming too needy. She said flat out it's all Bull$hit and everyone should just act normal
and drop the curtain. When I called her out on female tendencies and why us guys have to go through all of this she said: "cuz we're idiots."
I saw one just last week:
"if I look like I'm out of your league.....I am so don't contact me"
"please don't message me if you have bare chest photos on your profile or wear loose saggy jeans or your hat sideways"
funny $hit.
On another related note, I was discussing with my sister all the B$ we have to go through to get the attraction going AKA not
really being ourselves naturally. She said she's frustrated as well, like when she likes a guy and they don't contact her for
several days just to keep from seeming too needy. She said flat out it's all Bull$hit and everyone should just act normal
and drop the curtain. When I called her out on female tendencies and why us guys have to go through all of this she said: "cuz we're idiots."
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:crackup: Access to drugs, dude? Really? While I know a lot of the gold digger-ice queen-clubbing type chicks are complete coke whores, I'd venture to say that "drug hookups" probably isn't a normal inclusion into the average daydreaming chick.nismo-4 said:
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When she says 'There are no real men' - say 'You're right, I'm not real, I'm from you're dreams, so stop talking.' :cheer:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
spinaroonie
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I honestly don't think there has ever been a time in history when gender relations have been as fvcked up as today - in matters of "courtship" (how antiquated).
But there has never been a better time In history to be an alpha DJ.
Blame the birth control pill.
But there has never been a better time In history to be an alpha DJ.
Blame the birth control pill.