"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Something I noticed about social value

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This a pretty fundamental thing, I think, but it's a good illustration of all the social forces that drive attraction in both men and women.

I'm seeing this girl right now, a 6' HB8 with an awesomely tight body. She's pretty flat, which is a definite minus in my book (to me, girls need at least a full B to get over an 8). However, many (most?) other guys don't seem to have a problem with this, as evidenced by all the stares and slow-driving, rubber-necking and general lewdness of men on the street. She gets hit on in front of me all the time and generally flirts back. The fact that I love this is something I take as evidence that I've come a long way since finding this site. I get indirect validation from guys being all over her and it's actually a lot more fun to have her on my arm after leaving one of those situations. She just seems a lot hotter to me when other guys are around, and I perceive her as more of a 9 than an 8.

Funny how what other people think can pump me up like that. Is this a sticking point I should work on - maybe I swung too hard from being jealous to being validated? Is that external validation going to help me or hurt me in the future? Anyone else experienced this?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well .. put it this way. If she is flirting back right in front of you then it will be a problem later.
 

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She flirts back woth these guys because she wants to guage your reaction. She is also, subconsciously, letting you know that she is hot property and she knows it. She is trying to make you feel like 'if you put one foot wrong, i can have a replacement within the hour'.

I have experienced this. Several times, in fact. The first time, i got jealous. Big mistake, because i showed her a weakness. The second time, i acted like i didnt care. This was neither positive nor negative, as far as i could tell.

The third time, however, i started flirting with another women. BINGO. This let her know that I wouldnt take her crap, not for one second. Her reaction was immediate: she stopped talking to the guy and came up to me. She then put her arms around me and gave the girl a quick 'glance'....the other girl promptly disappeared.
 

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I'm not worried about this girl in particular. I know how to play the game well enough with her that I won't lose her, and I'm protecting myself enough that it won't hurt if I do. I was just wondering if it was a personal sticking point I should work on. Is it wrong to be externally validated by walking around with hot chicks?

Hey Eoin, where in Ireland are you from?
 

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Its not wrong at all, really. Its quite natural to feel even more interested in something if other people do. Im from Dublin, by the by.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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