"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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somethimg I literally just thought of

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Please excuse any flaws as it is off the top of my head
A way convo goes

Me: Hey,Have you got a light?
[2 answers here so ill do both]
Her: No sorry,I don't smoke
Me:Neither do I this is just a prop I use as a pickup tool,I'm Tim [Holds out hand for handshake]
Her:yadda yadda
so yeah whatever from there

or
Her:yeah sure
Me:Thanks, I'm Tim...who might you be?
or something along those lines
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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the "you gotta light?" thing works if you are a smoker,
if you are not a smoker, it doesn't blow over that well.
that is just my opinion.

could you ask for the time instead?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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penkitten said:
the "you gotta light?" thing works if you are a smoker,
if you are not a smoker, it doesn't blow over that well.
that is just my opinion.

could you ask for the time instead?
yay someone serious:up:
I did think of that but i thought it was a bit cliche (not sure if i can get the accent on the e but meh]
 

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rottweiler_273 said:
Please excuse any flaws as it is off the top of my head
A way convo goes

Me: Hey,Have you got a light?
[2 answers here so ill do both]
Her: No sorry,I don't smoke
Me:Neither do I this is just a prop I use as a pickup tool,I'm Tim [Holds out hand for handshake]
Her:yadda yadda
so yeah whatever from there

or
Her:yeah sure
Me:Thanks, I'm Tim...who might you be?
or something along those lines

So what do you do when she pulls out the light and you have nothing to light?
 
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errm the fact that i said it had a flaw fair enough but i had a *prop* which would be a cigar seeing as i do smoke them occasionally cos i hate cigarettes with a passion
 

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You said you want opinions.

So stop disagreeing with everyone.

First off, do you really need a prop to speak to a woman??

I mean you have a basic opener of Hey do you have a light.. Thats so basic and non chalant, so hey let's use another basic one shall we?? Like hi, or I haven't seen you around here, whats your name.. anything like that!!!!

The reason I was giving you a hard time was because it astounds me that you sat there and put thought into an approach for a woman, and your approach was basically saying hey to her, which is a good approach lol

Thats like saying hm.. I have this awesome new technique that will help you walk, if you move one foot at a time..one in front of the other.. blah blah..

Stop thinking so damn hard, all of you.

It kills me, be like nike and just do it for christs sakes. You don't need props, you don't need to peacock and wear three watches, all you need is confidence and know how to create a fun comfortable atmosphere, and thats it..

By all means if you want to say hey and ask for a light, thats a great opener, sure, but maybe you're trying to hard.
 

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StoneColdFox said:
You said you want opinions.

So stop disagreeing with everyone.

First off, do you really need a prop to speak to a woman??

I mean you have a basic opener of Hey do you have a light.. Thats so basic and non chalant, so hey let's use another basic one shall we?? Like hi, or I haven't seen you around here, whats your name.. anything like that!!!!

The reason I was giving you a hard time was because it astounds me that you sat there and put thought into an approach for a woman, and your approach was basically saying hey to her, which is a good approach lol

Thats like saying hm.. I have this awesome new technique that will help you walk, if you move one foot at a time..one in front of the other.. blah blah..

Stop thinking so damn hard, all of you.

It kills me, be like nike and just do it for christs sakes. You don't need props, you don't need to peacock and wear three watches, all you need is confidence and know how to create a fun comfortable atmosphere, and thats it..

By all means if you want to say hey and ask for a light, thats a great opener, sure, but maybe you're trying to hard.

L M A O
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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i read it somewhere..

this opebner is one of the best ways a girls open guys at a bar.. and dont seem predatory/slvtty about it...

you just have to capitalise on it
 

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I asked two chicks for a ciggarette, and a light once. They both had boyfriends. But they talked to me and my buddy for a little bit, then actually bought us some more ciggarettes. (We're both underage.) It was shweet.

Anyway. I wouldn't use that line unless you actually smoke.. otherwise you look like a dumbass.
 

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rottweiler_273 said:
i hate cigarettes with a passion
dear pup,
stop trying to attract smokers if you dislike it so much. you will thank me in the long run.
from long time smoker
 

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When he said he hates cigarettes he might just mean the taste of them. I smoke and there are some brands that I utterly dispise cos of taste, amber leaf being one of them. Tastes like feet *shudder*. But point is I don't dislike smoking, just the taste of some cigarettes.
 

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Plec07 said:
When he said he hates cigarettes he might just mean the taste of them. I smoke and there are some brands that I utterly dispise cos of taste, amber leaf being one of them. Tastes like feet *shudder*. But point is I don't dislike smoking, just the taste of some cigarettes.
there are some "make you gag" brands out there like tourney eewwww *gags
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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