"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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white cloud 8

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Well, I went to go see that girl (the one I've been talking about in some of my past threads on advice) and does she look good :up:, like wow. She is tanned and it looks good, she toned up and her body looks great, she got streaks in her hair which make her look even more sexy, basically she looks waay better than the last time I saw her (early last month). I'm even more attracted to her now. Here's the thing: I went there to see her, we chatted about what we've been up to for the past while (mostly small talk), she didn't bring up why I haven't called her yet either :whistle:. So yeah, I dropped in to say 'Hi' and she basically asked me about school (what I'm taking now) and that was it, it's like pulling teeth (sometimes) trying to keep a conversation with her. After I left it got me thinking, should I pursue her any further or should I give her a chance? I mean, I really like her (is this one-itis that I'm feeling if I think about her?) I don't know....any thoughts/advice?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Good idea or bad idea: Tomorrow I'm going to call the sculpture studio (where she'll be) and ask for her, if she is not available then I ask the person to pass on my number to her. If she answers then I'll tell her the situation that I have been having problems with my cell and lost everyone in my phonebook (including hers)....OR say that I tried to call her last week but, I must have inputted her # incorrectly when she gave it to me (excuse because I lost it when she gave it to me last month :rolleyes: )
 

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So you actually DID lose it?
 

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*...sighs...* yes, within a matter of minutes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This one's well beyond help. It's bloody painful to read about it.

NEXT!!!!
 

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Okay here some advice one of my best friends gave me, and, I thank him for the extra needed confidence booster:


You big front bum!
k here is the thing, more often then not, girls love a guy who will take
action (it shows confidence). And well if you don't any action and she
likes you, she may not try anything she will just get annoyed and well
move on rather quickly. By then you find out about this and she had just
gone out to the bar and hooked up with some guy... which then she may
regret (if she is more my type lol), but then blame you for reacting
like that (well if she did like you), but then she is gonna hate you for
it!
F*CK! buddy get on your horse and take action.


What do u guys think about that?
 

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Her lack of engagement/interest in your convo is a bad sign. It sounds like she was merely putting up with you while you talked. Maybe she has other prospects on her mind.
 

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it's painful to read stuff like this, because I've definitely been there. It's hard to accept that she's not into you, but you're not going to get on with your life until you accept it.
 
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