thegametheory
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Although I am new to this forum, I’m certainly not new to the game. I spent a long time reading through tall the posts and the DJ bible and there were a few things that I would like to add. And this will be the only time I’ll actually post anything – I’ve got places to be, people to meet, girls to dazzle and beers to drink.
Here are a few things I’d like to share:
1) The line between nice guy and jerk can be bridged.
I totally agree that nice guys, who lack the self confidence to claim and own what they want, usually do come off second best with women. Anyone who doesn’t have the balls to go after what they want will never succeed in life – work, financial, health – it’s all the same. However, the true jerks usually do no better with women – they only think that they do (or loudly claim that they do).
The real Don Juans of this world are neither nice nor *******s, they sit ambivalently between the two. They are mysterious, selectively choosing when to be kind and when to be seriously cruel. The real DJs are the guys that all men respect (or fear) and all women can’t understand (but want to). They are, essentially, unpredictable.
Think about the abundance of male archetypes out there and each is as predictable in their language and actions can be:
1) The over-masculine-alpha-male-testororone-empty-headed-idiot-that-thinks-he-is-God’s-gift-to-women guy. So cheap and predicable.
2) The I-read-Yeats-and-think-about-my-feelings-nice-guy-that-would-sacrifice-anything-to-be-with-a-woman wimp. So pathetic.
3) The I-have-no-morals-or-courage-or-self-worth- so-I-hit-on-my-buddies-girlfriends prick. You know the type, when you are hanging out with the boys beer bonging, these wimps are sitting in the girls circle or helping make salad and speaking about their problems. Who hasn’t known one of these guys before?
4) The I-ditch-my-friends-for-my-girlfriend-and-become-insanely-jelous-of-everyone-because-my-self-worth-and-identity-is-locked-away-in-my-girlfriends-panties wimps.
The real Don Juans are the men who can figure out when and where to travel between these archetypes. Knowing when to completely flatten as pretentious self involved woman is a still, as is knowing when to listen (note the word ‘listen’) and be a shoulder to cry on.
It’s a simple formula – the less readable you are the more women want to read you.
Become unpredictable. If you are a born pacifist, take a serious beating from a jerk that is insulting a woman (ever notice that the guys who gets a whipping ends up with the girl?). If you are a hard ass macho, completely derail the wimps that think they know everything about the new John Irving book and “how it esoterically makes meaning for all our identities in postmodernity” (Read: I-have-no-clue-what-the-hell-I’m-just-puking-rhetoric). Nothing is more interesting than the hard guy who has a brain
2) Be a Man’s Man.
The more men around you admire you, the more women will too. Do things, organize people around you. You don’t have to be the center of attention, but be an enabler. Make things happen. Tonight pick up the phone and call people. Find out what mad parties are happening in your town or city and get all your guy friends amped. Even better, make the party yourself.
Be the guy that everyone wants to speak to. It’s easy. Just offer something that nobody else can. Go to the party with the best beer bong possible, have a good cigar, play a killer game of pool / foosball.
3) Sometimes be a wolf in Nice Guy clothing.
Guys, let me just put you all straight. Girls are completely uncomplicated. If you can change the oil in your truck, you can get the best looking women’s mobile number. It’s all about the approach. Now I have to admit that this board has the approach aspect (The in the club never met the girl before thing) waxed and I think that everything is great. Kino and all the other tips just work if you have the confidence to pull it off. No matter what you look like – confidence is key. However, sometimes the really really hot girls can only be caught through some serious manipulation and going undercover nice guy.
It’s difficult to do, but if the girl’s worth it it’s possible. All that is required is that you acknowledge that you are playing this girl and do not become too attached. Switch you nice guy on and off. Letting her see this ‘beautiful’ side of you and then taking it away. Never ever talk about anything (keep mysterious) but be able to listen. When the time is right, take what you want. Don’t make a lame gesture like roses. Be assertive at the right time. It’s impossible to get wrong.
Perfect if you are looking for a threesome.
4) If you are on the hunt, never get drunk.
If you need to get drunk to speak to women I suggest that it’s time for you to get some self esteem and quit chickening out of your responsibility. The only reason why you think that getting drunk makes your picking up girls easier is because you drop your standards and go for girls that you would not go for sober.
Some Real Life Examples: Drunk buddies hook up with deaf girls. Drunk buddies land up kissing girls that land up having a penis. Drunk buddies hook up with girl with eye patches. Drunk buddies hook up with girls who are missing limbs.
Ever noticed how when you are the designated driver you always land up hooking up? Reasons:
You look better sober – no ruffled clothes, untidy hair, unbuttoned fly, spillage on your tshirt.
Your communication is better and you can connect humor to theme.
Even though it seems opposite, your confidence is boosted by two / three beers and completely gone by the fourth and fifth one.
Being drunk sends out a bad message – unable to grow up, reliance issues etc.
Stay sober. If you were going to hunt deer you wouldn’t get drunk before you did it? Same principle. Your mind and appearance is your bullet. Keep the crosshairs sharp.
5) Men Listen, Wimps talk.
Rule of thumb. If you are making a play and a girl is a chatter box and wants to talk about the no go areas do nothing. Just listen. All that is required of you is your ears. Undivided attention is a winner with any girl. All you have to do is repeat the last word she said and ask another question. It’s called emphatic listening and requires 0% effort after you have trained yourself.
Example:
Hot Blonde with Perfect Ass: “And then my Mom told me that there was no way that I was going to be allowed studying drama!”
You: [Switch on] “Really, ‘no way’? Why did she say that?” [Switch off]
Here are a few things I’d like to share:
1) The line between nice guy and jerk can be bridged.
I totally agree that nice guys, who lack the self confidence to claim and own what they want, usually do come off second best with women. Anyone who doesn’t have the balls to go after what they want will never succeed in life – work, financial, health – it’s all the same. However, the true jerks usually do no better with women – they only think that they do (or loudly claim that they do).
The real Don Juans of this world are neither nice nor *******s, they sit ambivalently between the two. They are mysterious, selectively choosing when to be kind and when to be seriously cruel. The real DJs are the guys that all men respect (or fear) and all women can’t understand (but want to). They are, essentially, unpredictable.
Think about the abundance of male archetypes out there and each is as predictable in their language and actions can be:
1) The over-masculine-alpha-male-testororone-empty-headed-idiot-that-thinks-he-is-God’s-gift-to-women guy. So cheap and predicable.
2) The I-read-Yeats-and-think-about-my-feelings-nice-guy-that-would-sacrifice-anything-to-be-with-a-woman wimp. So pathetic.
3) The I-have-no-morals-or-courage-or-self-worth- so-I-hit-on-my-buddies-girlfriends prick. You know the type, when you are hanging out with the boys beer bonging, these wimps are sitting in the girls circle or helping make salad and speaking about their problems. Who hasn’t known one of these guys before?
4) The I-ditch-my-friends-for-my-girlfriend-and-become-insanely-jelous-of-everyone-because-my-self-worth-and-identity-is-locked-away-in-my-girlfriends-panties wimps.
The real Don Juans are the men who can figure out when and where to travel between these archetypes. Knowing when to completely flatten as pretentious self involved woman is a still, as is knowing when to listen (note the word ‘listen’) and be a shoulder to cry on.
It’s a simple formula – the less readable you are the more women want to read you.
Become unpredictable. If you are a born pacifist, take a serious beating from a jerk that is insulting a woman (ever notice that the guys who gets a whipping ends up with the girl?). If you are a hard ass macho, completely derail the wimps that think they know everything about the new John Irving book and “how it esoterically makes meaning for all our identities in postmodernity” (Read: I-have-no-clue-what-the-hell-I’m-just-puking-rhetoric). Nothing is more interesting than the hard guy who has a brain
2) Be a Man’s Man.
The more men around you admire you, the more women will too. Do things, organize people around you. You don’t have to be the center of attention, but be an enabler. Make things happen. Tonight pick up the phone and call people. Find out what mad parties are happening in your town or city and get all your guy friends amped. Even better, make the party yourself.
Be the guy that everyone wants to speak to. It’s easy. Just offer something that nobody else can. Go to the party with the best beer bong possible, have a good cigar, play a killer game of pool / foosball.
3) Sometimes be a wolf in Nice Guy clothing.
Guys, let me just put you all straight. Girls are completely uncomplicated. If you can change the oil in your truck, you can get the best looking women’s mobile number. It’s all about the approach. Now I have to admit that this board has the approach aspect (The in the club never met the girl before thing) waxed and I think that everything is great. Kino and all the other tips just work if you have the confidence to pull it off. No matter what you look like – confidence is key. However, sometimes the really really hot girls can only be caught through some serious manipulation and going undercover nice guy.
It’s difficult to do, but if the girl’s worth it it’s possible. All that is required is that you acknowledge that you are playing this girl and do not become too attached. Switch you nice guy on and off. Letting her see this ‘beautiful’ side of you and then taking it away. Never ever talk about anything (keep mysterious) but be able to listen. When the time is right, take what you want. Don’t make a lame gesture like roses. Be assertive at the right time. It’s impossible to get wrong.
Perfect if you are looking for a threesome.
4) If you are on the hunt, never get drunk.
If you need to get drunk to speak to women I suggest that it’s time for you to get some self esteem and quit chickening out of your responsibility. The only reason why you think that getting drunk makes your picking up girls easier is because you drop your standards and go for girls that you would not go for sober.
Some Real Life Examples: Drunk buddies hook up with deaf girls. Drunk buddies land up kissing girls that land up having a penis. Drunk buddies hook up with girl with eye patches. Drunk buddies hook up with girls who are missing limbs.
Ever noticed how when you are the designated driver you always land up hooking up? Reasons:
You look better sober – no ruffled clothes, untidy hair, unbuttoned fly, spillage on your tshirt.
Your communication is better and you can connect humor to theme.
Even though it seems opposite, your confidence is boosted by two / three beers and completely gone by the fourth and fifth one.
Being drunk sends out a bad message – unable to grow up, reliance issues etc.
Stay sober. If you were going to hunt deer you wouldn’t get drunk before you did it? Same principle. Your mind and appearance is your bullet. Keep the crosshairs sharp.
5) Men Listen, Wimps talk.
Rule of thumb. If you are making a play and a girl is a chatter box and wants to talk about the no go areas do nothing. Just listen. All that is required of you is your ears. Undivided attention is a winner with any girl. All you have to do is repeat the last word she said and ask another question. It’s called emphatic listening and requires 0% effort after you have trained yourself.
Example:
Hot Blonde with Perfect Ass: “And then my Mom told me that there was no way that I was going to be allowed studying drama!”
You: [Switch on] “Really, ‘no way’? Why did she say that?” [Switch off]