"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Some Questions About Timing...

neobrood

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Ok... when you meet a new girl, when do you start making moves?

After getting her phone and email, when to call her or email her?

How many months (or days or weeks or years... I dunno) should it take before grabbing her hands and making moves?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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diablo

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After you get the girls email, you should wait 5-7 months before sending her a note over the computer. By then, she'll have been so eager waiting to hear from you that she'll have to pinch herself to make sure it's not some sort of a dream, and that you are in fact sending her an email.

As for how long it will take before making moves and grabbing her hands, it depends on the situation. A normal length of time before grabbing her hands would be 9 months after your email. You should definitely wait at least 15 months before making any sort of move on her at all, other than touching her hands.




Better yet, how long until you read the DJ Bible and start using the search feature on this site???
 

So pimp its scary

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neobrood... you're asking the wrong questions... The fact is that you are always either progressing or regressing, you have to continually escalate things... slowly, or rather as quickly as she is comfortable with... and the only way to figure out how comfortable she is is to continually make "moves".

Let's just say, you are waiting for the bus and you see a cute girl, you start a conversation, and your bus comes, quite likely the only 'moves' you could make would be to get her number. Let's continue to say that you get this girls number, you call and get a date, on this date the conversation is going well, and as you walk you put your hand on her waist, providing she is comfortable, you might escalate to a kiss, to making out, but then have to stop there because any more would make her uncomfortable.... and she will let you know if your going to fast.

I've went from meeting a girl to sexing her in less then 2 hours, but I've also dated a girl for 5 months without doing as much...

Then, on the next date, you could start with a kiss because you had already gone further with her, and just continue from there. There is a lot of common sense in this... and when in doubt, go with your gut.
 

Ebach

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On a serious note ;-)

That's what timing is all about. It's about timing. There's no set limit. You should act as fast as possible but only appropriate to the situation. You can't grab a stranger by the tits because your timing is all wrong.
 
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