"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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some of you guys are sick PERVERTS. good riddance sosuave

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I came to this site after my boyfriend and I broke up due to some problems we were having when I went abroad for a quarter. It really seemed cool to learn and talk with guys from all over the world. After spending some time on these boards I started feeling like there really were some genuine, nice guys around.

And some who are...definitely NOT. Are all of you old men on this site creepers and perverts??

The last straw was that loser Naughty Ninja. Like seriously this guy is supposed to be a DJ or something?!?! We started exchanging private messages and everything was normal at first, he was making fun of packers and ok maybe he was sweet talking me a bit.

Then he asked me for a pic and I was like sure why not so I sent him one. After that...ugh. His messages got more sexual and wayyy creepier. He started sending me nasty photos and saying things like "Yeah baby I want to pour honey all over your nipples and lick it up." It was then that I clicked on his profile and realized he is 43 YEARS OLD. Gross!

What kind of guy sends shirtless photos and pics of his d1ck to girls HALF his age online? Ewww!!!!!

Let this be a warning to all you other chicks hanging out here, some of these guys are seriously messed up. *vomits* Farewell, this is my LAST post. If you want to talk, message me but I am done posting here.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hahahaha....seriously.....I thought NN had better game than that.
 

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BelleSing94 said:
I came to this site after my boyfriend and I broke up due to some problems we were having when I went abroad for a quarter. It really seemed cool to learn and talk with guys from all over the world. After spending some time on these boards I started feeling like there really were some genuine, nice guys around.

And some who are...definitely NOT. Are all of you old men on this site creepers and perverts??

The last straw was that loser Naughty Ninja. Like seriously this guy is supposed to be a DJ or something?!?! We started exchanging private messages and everything was normal at first, he was making fun of packers and ok maybe he was sweet talking me a bit.

Then he asked me for a pic and I was like sure why not so I sent him one. After that...ugh. His messages got more sexual and wayyy creepier. He started sending me nasty photos and saying things like "Yeah baby I want to pour honey all over your nipples and lick it up." It was then that I clicked on his profile and realized he is 43 YEARS OLD. Gross!

What kind of guy sends shirtless photos and pics of his d1ck to girls HALF his age online? Ewww!!!!!

Let this be a warning to all you other chicks hanging out here, some of these guys are seriously messed up. *vomits* Farewell, this is my LAST post. If you want to talk, message me but I am done posting here.
Some of these guys are just sad excuses for people.
 

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Well obviously if what you say is true, that should have never happened and on behalf of the entire board....I apologize.

At the same time, you are on a mens dating site, visited by 99% men. As a women, you are going to get that kind of thing here. Just the way of the world. I am sure you had to expect at least some of that coming in no? Not saying that makes it right.

I invite you to stick around and at least read some posts, there are some really good people here.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Damn, NN, that's messed up! Belle was just trying to peek into a guy's world.
 
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cordoncordon, don't be a white knight.

Belle is like a women at the club, she knew what she was getting into. She mind-jerked packers, the typical club creeper. Considering the non-productive posts she made, attention was her priority. Another starving attention cvnt that got dumped and seeking validation. She disappears after getting her fix from AFC's of SoSuave.
 

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cordoncordon said:
Well obviously if what you say is true, that should have never happened and on behalf of the entire board....I apologize.

At the same time, you are on a mens dating site, visited by 99% men. As a women, you are going to get that kind of thing here. Just the way of the world. I am sure you had to expect at least some of that coming in no? Not saying that makes it right.

I invite you to stick around and at least read some posts, there are some really good people here.
Agreed to above.

Belle, if you can, try to laugh it off and just make fun of him, as "gross" as it may be you can't let something like that get to you. It is online and if you were on a regular dating site you might run across some of the same things. I am new to this site as well but I can tell you that I couldn't see behavior like that coming from most of the posters on here.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
cordoncordon, don't be a white knight.

Belle is like a women at the club, she knew what she was getting into. She mind-jerked packers, the typical club creeper. Considering the non-productive posts she made, attention was her priority. Another starving attention cvnt that got dumped and seeking validation. She disappears after getting her fix from AFC's of SoSuave.
I don't believe I have ever read or even posted in any of the threads she has, and before now never even knew she was a girl.

I am just saying what is right and wrong. IF what she says is true, and I'm not saying it is or isn't, but if it is, she shouldn't be subjected to that. That same type of mentality leads to guys thinking its OK to rape a girl just because she has on a low cut blouse. She was 'asking for it' and 'should have known better'.


There is right. And there is wrong.
 

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Seriously...anyone else find this Belle chick to be beyond annoying???

She is acting like someone raped her or something...you are on a PUA forum trolling for attention...what do you expect??? Where is your sense of humor.....seriously grow up little girl. NN obviously doesn't have any game but he hardly hurt you in any way....typical woman who takes herself way too seriously...when you PM stranger son the internet you never know what kind of weirdness you will get...this should be common sense...this isn't your local church group...silly ditzy attention seeking woman...uggggghhh...

And to the guys apologizing to her...just cut the white knight BS out already. She is just playing the innocent victim card over nothing. That goes to you specifically Concordion and plates. WK behavior is beyond annoying.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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cordoncordon said:
I don't believe I have ever read or even posted in any of the threads she has, and before now never even knew she was a girl.

I am just saying what is right and wrong. IF what she says is true, and I'm not saying it is or isn't, but if it is, she shouldn't be subjected to that. That same type of mentality leads to guys thinking its OK to rape a girl just because she has on a low cut blouse. She was 'asking for it' and 'should have known better'.


There is right. And there is wrong.
To summarize your post:

"Just because I'm dressed like this, does not mean I'm a wh*re."

What you are saying is that guys on here are supposed to disregard her sh!t on this board and treat her like a princess? Check out her chat with packers2010 on 'how can he fap' before putting on your armor.
 

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zinc4 said:
Seriously...anyone else find this Belle chick to be beyond annoying???

She is acting like someone raped her or something...you are on a PUA forum...what do you expect??? Where is your sense of humor.....seriously grow up little girl. NN obviously doesn't have any game but he hardly hurt you in any way....typical woman who takes herself way too seriously...

And to the guys apologizing to her...just cut the white knight BS out already. She is just playing the innocent victim card over nothing. That goes to you specifically Concordion. WK behavior is beyong annoying.
Leave the forum if you are so annoyed......annoyed like the little girl that you are. Why don't you go spend your time buying some more hookers in China like you seem to like to do.

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To summarize your post:

"Just because I'm dressed like this, does not mean I'm a wh*re."

What you are saying is that guys on here are supposed to disregard her sh!t on this board and treat her like a princess? Check out her chat with packers2010 on 'how can he fap' before putting on your armor.
Like I said, I have never even read her posts. I am not WKing anyone. Could care less what she has said or not said. What I do know is guys should not be PMing ANYONE here, men or women, and saying and doing those kinds of things. It really is that simple. Cmon....pictures of your cawk?? Really? We are supposed to be above that kind of thing.
 

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I can tell some of you have never been managers or supervisors. As annoying as some of her posts might have been, and as attention getting as she may be, and as overreacting as she is....

It doesn't mean she should be getting unsolicited c0ck pictures sent to her. That is the point. That is not a good representation of this site.
 
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Like I said, I have never even read her posts. I am not WKing anyone. Could care less what she has said or not said. What I do know is guys should not be PMing ANYONE here, men or women, and saying those kinds of things. It really is that simple. We are supposed to be above that kind of thing.
This site has a PM feature, are you saying that it is ONLY restricted to male-male conversations? She may have been drunk and h*rny, leading posters here on for all you know. It might not be everyone's cup of tea to respond, but for you to white knight the sh!t out of this post is why our younger generation is emasculated.

vRape?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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cordoncordon said:
Leave the forum if you are so annoyed......annoyed like the little girl that you are. Why don't you go spend your time buying some more hookers in China like you seem to like to do.



Like I said, I have never even read her posts. I am not WKing anyone. Could care less what she has said or not said. What I do know is guys should not be PMing ANYONE here, men or women, and saying those kinds of things. It really is that simple. We are supposed to be above that kind of thing.

falsely accusing me of something won't make you feel better about the fact that you are a WK...little AFC...
 

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falsely accusing me of something won't make you feel better about the fact that you are a WK little AFC
Strong words. U mad? Anytime you want to pay me a visit, feel free. I live right in Valenica CA.

Funny how you can dish it out, but anyone says anything back to you? You tip over like.....like an annoyed like girl. Which you are. :cheer:
 

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EDIT: A man brings his best buddy back home for dinner. His wife screams at him, "My hair & makeup are not done, the house is a mess, the dishes are not done, I'm still in my pajamas & I can't be bothered with cooking tonight!!!
What the hell did you bring him around for?"
"’Cause he's thinking of getting married."
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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