"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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you know, we always talk about how women suck, but truth is there are a LOT of men out there who suck also. this story is also part of the reason why women care about more than just looks (because there are plenty of decent looking guys who are total idiots and do sh*t like in the story below. ).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tees/7063366.stm



Man jailed for urinating on woman

A man who urinated on a woman as she lay dying and shouted "this is YouTube material" has been sentenced to three years in prison.

Anthony Anderson also covered Christine Lakinski with shaving foam after she collapsed in a Hartlepool street.

Miss Lakinski, 50, who suffered from a number of medical conditions, was later pronounced dead at the scene.

Anderson, 27, and from Raby Road in the Teesside town, had earlier admitted outraging public decency.

The court heard how, on 27 July, Miss Lakinski was making her way home with a box of laminate flooring when she fell ill and stumbled into a doorway.

Totally shocked

Anderson, a former soldier, had smoked a cannabis joint and been drinking when he and two friends spotted her.

He tried to rouse her by throwing a bucket of water over her, before urinating on her and covering her with shaving foam.

A crowd had gathered around, watching and laughing, and the incident was filmed on a mobile phone.

She was later declared dead at the scene, the cause of death being given as pancreatic failure.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I agree its a scumbag thing that he did but three years in prison seems a bit excessive.

Its really not going to help society much to have him locked up there.

I'd of much preferred this guy to of been sentenced to three years of community service while under house arrest.
 

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well i just thought it was a good example of how stupid men can be.

i bet we all know at least a handful of guys (if not more) who would do something like this guy did.

which is why i laugh when guys get so high and mighty on here about how men are the best and women suck.

the reality is there are plenty of idiots in both genders. :)
 

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Well instead of peeing on and laughing at the woman he could have tried to help her and save her life. He deserves to have his d!ck cut off.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Oh your post is definitely a good example of how men can be idiots too joekerr no argument there.

"which is why i laugh when guys get so high and mighty on here about how men are the best and women suck."

Well I think its that way because this is basically a site for men only that women can partake in if they find out it exists but anyway this place is a site for men to vent and improve themselves without having to worry about some chick picking apart what they say.

Basically when a guy is here on this site its very much like he's with his brothers.

Still a good wake up call of a post to such guys that get too lost in the venting phase here though.
 

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joekerr31 said:
well i just thought it was a good example of how stupid men can be.

which is why i laugh when guys get so high and mighty on here about how men are the best and women suck.

the reality is there are plenty of idiots in both genders. :)
I never knew you thought like this. I will think twice before thinking you are hopeless, in the future. :D

Yes, both sexes have "members" who are complete fvcking idiots.
 

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Actually I'm right if you think about it.

How does his rotting in a jail cell benefit society in any way?

It sucks up tax dollars while he sits around and laughs about what he did and sleeps and gets three hots and a cot daily.

Put him to work I say for the same community he shamed with his pathetic act on that woman.

Make him do humiliating and humbling tasks like picking up roadside trash and disposing of roadkill or even have him paint someone's house or work in a soup kitchen.

His serving the community teaches him a valueable lesson that you must give back when you take.

He took that person's dignity and literally p!ssed on it.

He should lose his dignity by being humbled and being made to serve the community he disgraced and perhaps in that way if he cared at all he could earn his own dignity back.

Society gets nothing but its money taken by him rotting in a prison cell.

Edit: My bad I just read it more thoroughly and apparently you advocate killing this man for what he did. Jeez bro I've heard all about how annoying Chavs are in your country from a UK buddy of mine but I didn't know they annoyed you guys to THAT extent. Wow, we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
 

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Mad Manic said:
There are women out there who refuse sex to guys they are attracted to for ridiculous BS reasons. These guys go through life depressed, sexless, have no kids/marriage then kill themselves. I don't see women punished for that.

As for this incident, I bet if the roles were reversed the woman wouldn't get 3 years. Feminism and the matrix is always there.

Remember, most crimes by males can be attributed to sexual frustration and depression to some level. So we can still blame women for men's crimes. Woohoo. :)
Well I was going to point out that I bet he was another one of those bitter men who hate women... so thanks for doing it for me.

Yes, bitter men who hate women =
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he is insane.. off his head.. demented... he's a psychopath.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mad Manic said:
Yes he probably is, that was probably what brought out his poor actions towards the woman when he was high on weed, in all seriousness.

As for bitter women-hating being insane/psycopaths, again I'd agree, this stuff to high levels really does mess a man's head up.

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I agree there are bitter women too. Imagine how much of a turn off they are when you encounter them. This is why men of sosuave should purge themselves of bitterness, and look for the light of the truth, and then they will find some understanding! Of women, and of themselves, and the choices they make!

And be better equipped on how to deal with bitter women when they come across them.
 

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Yeah but for all we know this guy gets women. Sure there are idiotical guys out there, but you know what? Women seem to gravitate towards them more. Everyone says "women don't like nice guys", "nice guys finish last", "women like jerks. Be a jerk." and it's been my experience that good hearted men don't do well with women and women take advantage and walk on them and make them into "bad" guys.

I'm sure some of the people pointing and laughing at this unconscious woman were other women too. This story proved nothing about women not sucking. It does vindicate women at all.
 

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ketostix said:
Yeah but for all we know this guy gets women.
Hmmm. Do you really think this? I mean... is he bitter and hateful... or is he a DJ? Because someone else seemed to think he was bitter because he WASN'T getting laid.

And if he is getting women... I mean, what kind?!

It sounds like you approve of this man? Is he your kind of role model, Mr. Stix?


ketostix said:
I'm sure some of the people pointing and laughing at this unconscious woman were other women too. This story proved nothing about women not sucking. It does vindicate women at all.
Don't be so sure, also I don't think women need to be vindicated (you read too many comic books... interesting that the women are the villain), and also I don't think the point of this thread was to prove anything about women.
 

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Mad Manic said:
...as most 'pointless' crimes are; vent of sexual frustation.
Do you really think that most pointless crimes are vents of sexual frustration??

I think most pointless crimes are committed by people with little to no moral compass. These people maybe alienate themselves with their lack of thought or care for others. Which could very well result in them NOT being too successful with the ladies! Which could result in sexual frustration. But they weren't just some normal AFC.

I am pretty sure it is safe to say that if you are an idiot, a social reject (no morals or consideration for others), or bitter and hateful, you won't be getting much putang.

Another reason not to be bitter! You might end up a criminal! ;)
 

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ducaro said:
This guy is not stupid:rolleyes: he is insane.. off his head.. demented... he's a psychopath.
I thought this was about a normal human being who was being stupid or something..

sh*t half the football team when i was in highschool would have thought that was hilarious.

and there are lots of people as adults who think this stuff is 'funny'. heck, read the article, poeple (not just his friend) were standing around laughing.

there are a LOT of sick people in this world, men and women.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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iqqi said:
I never knew you thought like this. I will think twice before thinking you are hopeless, in the future. :D

Yes, both sexes have "members" who are complete fvcking idiots.
well the day you stop thinking im hopeless is the day you will stop being hopeless :D
 

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Mad Manic said:
So yes, high IQ + being helpful isn't statistically conducive to sexing hot girls.

the only reasons *ssholes like this guy get women is because they approach. they aren't afraid of the nubmers game.

ive said this a billion times. if nice guys were to simply approach approach approach they would get tons of p*ssy also.

now, if they are 100 pounds overweight, thats a problem also.

but being a decent human being is NEVER a problem. it doesn't hold you back in business, it doesn't hold you back with women, it doesn't hold you bakc in life.

being NICE is never a problem, being a doormat or having low self esteem will hold you back.
 

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iqqi said:
Do you really think that most pointless crimes are vents of sexual frustration??
i do think a lot of male criminals are guys who have too much testosterone and who were raised to be overly aggressive.

i dont think it has anything to do with getting laid or not. if that were the case all these 'nice' guys who aren't getting laid would be out killing people.
 

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Men ARE and will ALWAYS BE SUPERIOR TO WOMEN !! make no mistake about that...but there are some stupid guys out there. A few bad apples don't speak for the majority..

Your intentions to try and denigrate men is foolish.
 

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Drum&Bass said:
Men ARE and will ALWAYS BE SUPERIOR TO WOMEN !! make no mistake about that...but there are some stupid guys out there. A few bad apples don't speak for the majority..

Your intentions to try and denigrate men is foolish.
not trying to denigrate men. just trying to point out that for as many horrible women there are out there, there are lots of horrible men too.

which goes with what im always saying.... become a great man and find yourself a great woman!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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