Some Male Personal Trainers in Gyms are Something Else

[KarmaSutra]

However all art comes from pain.

This is incorrect in every imaginable way. Painful art may come from pain but what you're saying is purely defeatist.

Art comes from love. Whether it be adoration of one of the senses, your spirit, or as a tribute to someone, something or an idea.

As an artist who has a very diverse circle of artist friends, I can attest that anyone who is passionate about thier art uses love and inspiration from our heart to further our progress.

 

[PhatE1vis]

Two things:

1. Does anyone other than me go to the gym to workout?

2. Personal trainer = status? Ahhh....

 

[STR8UP]

Your tone seems a tad on the depressive? PM me and I'll take a ride out to O-town and we'll talk about it and conquer it together.

Sounds like a plan. I shoot one over.

 

[Omen]

Two things:

1. Does anyone other than me go to the gym to workout?

2. Personal trainer = status? Ahhh....

That's all I go for. I mean yeah, they say... Sometimes you can pick women up there cause you see them when they are not all made up, but i'm the guy that is serious about his workouts, so I go in and get out.

Now if for some reason I happened to end up talking to one ok, but i'm not there to socialize.

 

[Frank2500]

Re:

It sounds like YOU are a little jealous.

A person's status DOES entitle them to have sex with whomever that status affords them access to.

Do you hate on a rock star cause he gets pu$$y? This is the same dynamic.

It's unfortunate that you're misinterpreting my post this way. I'm not jealous of those personal trainers at all. I'm not surprised that at least one person jumped to that conclusion, even though my post was rather straight forward. No matter what one seems to write on here, there are always some who either deliberately misinterpret a lot of what is said or who simply look for a reason for conflict. In all honesty, I personally could care less what those personal trainers do. That's up to them. All I'm asking for is to be given some space. It's actually interesting that you talk about jealousy, because while I'm not one to blow my own trumpet and I'm generally a humble person, I can tell you with much certainty that I beat a lot of those male personal trainers in the looks domain, including physically.


Keep in mind that there is a difference between supposedly making use of the access your status gives you and mere "abuse of power." And a lot of what those personal trainers are doing is an abuse of power. If they weren't in positions where so many vulnerable women were in contact with them like that on a daily basis and the playing field were even in terms of competition, the dynamics would change significantly. That's why a lot of them feel threatened by men who they think look better than them and could get the same women they seem to be pursuing. I think comparing personal trainers to rock stars is completely off in this case.

 

[STR8UP]

It's unfortunate that you're misinterpreting my post this way. I'm not jealous of those personal trainers at all. I'm not surprised that at least one person jumped to that conclusion, even though my post was rather straight forward. No matter what one seems to write on here, there are always some who either deliberately misinterpret a lot of what is said or who simply look for a reason for conflict. In all honesty, I personally could care less what those personal trainers do. That's up to them. All I'm asking for is to be given some space.

If you weren't jealous or hating on the trainers, then why would you make a comment about them using their status to hook up with the women?

Keep in mind that there is a difference between supposedly making use of the access your status gives you and mere "abuse of power." And a lot of what those personal trainers are doing is an abuse of power. If they weren't in positions where so many vulnerable women were in contact with them like that on a daily basis and the playing field were even in terms of competition, the dynamics would change significantly.

And what exactly is the difference between "use" of power and "abuse" of power? This isn't a student/teacher or doctor/patient type relationship.

I think comparing personal trainers to rock stars is completely off in this case.

Rock stars, actors, bartenders, politicians, bosses, etc., etc., no difference. The rooster might as well take advantage while he's in the henhouse.

 

[Frank2500]

Re:

Dude, once again, let me make this clear. I am not jealous of those personal trainers. Like I said, I can tell you with confidence that I beat a lot of them hands down when it comes to looks and physical build. While I respect your opinion, I personally disagree that it doesn't make sense to put them on the same level as actors, rock stars and politicians. I don't see any similar correlation between them and such people. All I'm saying is this. I go to the gym to release a lot of stress that I deal with in my daily life on a consistent basis. I don't go there to compete with other men and personal trainers. So let them give me my space. All I want to do is work out and continue to improve myself. Once again, I personally could care less what they do, but the fact of the matter is they feel very threatened by men who they think women might find more attractive than them. A lot of them are very insecure inside.


Also, I'm not going to give up on trying to talk to a woman I find attractive just because a personal trainer wants to sleep with her and feels that he is entitled to do so just because of his occupation. I'm not going to comment with you again on this topic or offer further explanations about my opinion.

 

[STR8UP]

Once again, I personally could care less what they do, but the fact of the matter is they feel very threatened by men who they think women might find more attractive than them. A lot of them are very insecure inside.

You are posting about an assumption. Obviously this is going through your mind, so yea, you do care about it to an extent.

As far as comparing them to actors or rock stars...it doesn't matter what it is that puts you "above" other people. You don't have to be famous to have status within a certain context.

I'm not going to comment with you again on this topic or offer further explanations about my opinion.

Fair enough.

I've been around here for a minute or two and people don't hesitate to offer up their opinion of my situation, even if it is different from my own or it's something that they think I might not want to hear. Good luck to ya anyway.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

It sounds like YOU are a little jealous.

A person's status DOES entitle them to have sex with whomever that status affords them access to.

Do you hate on a rock star cause he gets pu$$y? This is the same dynamic.

Right, are you gonna show up to a concert and expect and get angry when the women are more interested in the main performer than in one of the many other attendees? Status is everything in any particular environment. A stripper has the highest status in the club she dances at. Hot, made up women have the highest status at night clubs where they get all the attention from hundreds of men.

Drum&Bass is right. Trainers get offered tail very often. I know I do. Even many years ago, when I was so obvlivious to the situation, I would get bombarded with hints and come ons, that I would usually miss.

In the gym/health club context, the trainers usually hold the highest status among women of certain age/demographic.

 

[MikeYikes122]

I don't think Frank is hating on anyone. He just didn't do a good job of making that clear in his initial post. The complaint he is voicing is more about the way some of those guys think they are too cool for school in the gym environment. I know how obnoxious that can be, especially where I workout. Those guys know nothing about game and regular life, but think they are hard and significant because they can lift a lot of weight. Some of them aren't all that bad if you talk to them, but the ones who are bad are right-out obnoxious. We have a word for them where I am from: Meatheads or Meat****s.

The same dynamic can exist for bouncers in a bar or a club. Some bouncers relish in the power they hold and are jerks about it because very often they don't hold much power in any other realm of life. That's especially annoying because in real life probably you, me or anyone else on this message board could out-game or out-do any of those kinds of bouncers. I got into a fight with a bouncer once when I was younger (wouldn't recommend that) because he was being a jerk-off.

If one of those meat****s is screaming and grunting unnecessarily during a workout just to draw attention to himself, I've found the best thing to do is just crack a joke about it to the people around you to ease the awkwardness, say something like "was that guy giving birth back there?" I also think Joe gives good advice, just smile and ignore it.

Frank, I wouldn't pay too much mind to the hater or jealous accusations. You seemed defensive about that. In every thread on this message board, there is always going to be someone who responds and tries to play psychologist by reading wayyy too deeply into a couple of sentences. Five times out of six, the person is way off-base. Only you are going to know if you are actually a hater, not some guy who has never met you and is judging on the basis of an Internet message board post. On a message board forum, you have to learn to sift through the bad advice and the good advice. Besides, if you think it's bad here, you should try posting on the regular Don Juan message board.

 

[MikeYikes122]

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[Omen]

lol, giving birth. I see that with one guy at the gym. For some reason he thinks he should drop EVERY weight on the ground. Even 35s. The dude is prob a good 6' or taller and 250. Just a big guy, but not ripped or really muscular.

I always shake my head when he does that crap. I'm like... Ok, i'm half your size for one, and I dont even do that. I want to really make this guy look dumb but I try and mind my own business. Too bad I dont work there or i'd be on his ass.

No need to throw weight around when it isn't heavy. We know you're there, so just shut up and lift.

Man people like that piss me off. I mean what does it accomplish? NOTHING. Last time I checked, dropping weights didn't get anyone bigger arms or any other body part for that matter.

 

[MikeYikes122]

lol, giving birth. I see that with one guy at the gym. For some reason he thinks he should drop EVERY weight on the ground. Even 35s. The dude is prob a good 6' or taller and 250. Just a big guy, but not ripped or really muscular.

I always shake my head when he does that crap. I'm like... Ok, i'm half your size for one, and I dont even do that. I want to really make this guy look dumb but I try and mind my own business. Too bad I dont work there or i'd be on his ass.

No need to throw weight around when it isn't heavy. We know you're there, so just shut up and lift.

Man people like that piss me off. I mean what does it accomplish? NOTHING. Last time I checked, dropping weights didn't get anyone bigger arms or any other body part for that matter.

Man you got me thinking. The gym personality that I hate the most isn't the jerk-off meatheads or over-zealous personal trainers, it's the guys who are fat or big, but not muscular at all. I have no problem with a heavyset guy trying to tighten up his physique, as long as he is not being obnoxious and thinking he is a hard a$$ because he can put 225 pounds in the bench press.

There are a handful of guys at my gym who are all visibly out of shape and are in the range of 260 to 310 pounds, but they still carry themselves like they own the weight room because they can put up a decent amount of weight on the bench press. There is one guy in particular who will come in to my gym every Sunday and load up like 205 pounds on the bench press and make a huge spectacle out himself, throwing weights around and grunting like you say. He is about 5-8, 245 pounds. I always want to stop him mid-workout and explain to him that I weight 100 pounds less than him and do only a little bit less than he does.

The gym is an environment for some interesting characters.