some guys actually use this opener : "i love you.will you be my gf/will you marry me"

[AreYouSingleFemale]

I have come across a couple of guys who directly used that to the girl. Sometimes they got rejected but persisted with it and finally pulled off. One guy has said this to a girl in his class, got rejected, used it again couple of MONTHS later, and she accepted and they got married. This guy wasn't being manipulative and all, he had known the girl for a long time (not personally), had known she would fit in well with him and his family, and wanted her to be his wife. He wasn't being dishonest so he wasn't losing his integrity. But there are also guys who have done this to total strangers. Actually I can imagine using that opener myself to some stranger, more easily than I would ask some "opinion" about a thing, for example. Think about it, it is so easy to just handover a rose to a total stranger and say "I love you" lol. It is animal-like, and easy, and not much to think about. I could do it like a robot to every girl I see. And I can imagine there would be girls to whom this method appears "honest" and brave. Only reason I wouldn't do it is it appears to me like begging. But I do think it might be more successful than roundabout ways of openers. Atleast there is no possibility of her mistaking you are just trying to be friendly.

 

[DonGorgon]

If you are good looking enough and a girl is attracted to you already then just about anything can work cause you dont really have to try... eg. what lines do you think brad pit has to use? exactly.

NOTE: the harder a woman makes you work to F the less attracted to you she is. While she is making you take her out and wait 2 months to F... There is always some dudes she will F with in minutes of meeting them.

 

[Darth]

One guy has said this to a girl in his class, got rejected, used it again couple of MONTHS later, and she accepted and they got married.

LOL. How wonderfully direct. There must have been more to it than that though...

 

[PigAdlemPimp]

Always be direct, never run around the roses a million times in the fear of rejection.

If you want to Marry a girl, say "I want to Marry you baby", if you just want a one off fvck, say, "I want to fvck you baby", this is the best way to go about it.

Dreamers always Dream and Winners always Win, so it seems, if the girl doesn't want you to Marry or fvck her, its time to move on and find another girl who will.

Its best not to fret over a girls reaction and ask for what you want when you want it, many dudes are fvcking hot babes tonight because they asked for that fvck.

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

Anyone that agrees with Mr.Pimp? Can someone post a video of a PUA saying "I want to fvck you baby" as an opener? Honestly I have considered saying something like that on some occasions but stopped myself from doing so.

 

[Solomon]

Anyone that agrees with Mr.Pimp? Can someone post a video of a PUA saying "I want to fvck you baby" as an opener? Honestly I have considered saying something like that on some occasions but stopped myself from doing so.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137824
^^basically without the "bluntness"

however I do know guys (higher status, money, social proof etc etc) who can say that, its very gutsy, typically only a golddiger or slvt will just go for the "I want to fcuk you baby" or maybe a drunk skank

peace

 

[MisterMcGee]

NOTE: the harder a woman makes you work to F the less attracted to you she is. While she is making you take her out and wait 2 months to F... There is always some dudes she will F with in minutes of meeting them.

I've known girls who go slow and continue playing hard to get with their BFs just because they really care about him and dont want to find out he's only interested in sex or whatnot (all that good stuff lol). It's a relationship thing for women, to 'take it slow' and really test the man and his ability to be a great boyfriend.
Meanwhile they'll allow themselves to **** random dudes cause they don't mean shiz all to her.

 

[daygameguy]

You can go direct or indirect depending on her body language and outer personality (the way she's dressed, her friends, her actions etc).

It also depends on your own mental state, and inner game level at that moment.

If you want consistency, and want to be the chooser, then you better be a little more skillful that just being bold.

Look at it this way, if a girl is socialized and is hit on quite often directly, she will see you as just another guy if you go direct. And on the other hand, if a girl is used to comfortable conversations with guys and has never had the taste of a direct strong sexy approach, she will be swept off her feet when you go direct.

There are no rules in seduction. Just plain guidelines. Ultimately you have to have the social savvy and the skill to make the best of every situation.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

It doesnt matter what you say. What matters is what you convey with your sub communication. There are some openers that you don't have to talk anything ( search for a thread of mine cyclone of glory ). Or there are more direct openers like apocalypse that asks a girl directly "wanna come to my house " . They work too .

 

[MisterMcGee]

Seriously guys, I've been approached by girls and what they first say is a blur cause you're too busy seeing if they're attractive or not. What matters is that you approached them and initiated something, and your 'vibe' or 'frame' is what matters most. So, if you want to be direct, be direct - it dosn't matter what you say, but make yourself clear off-the-bat. Heck, many girls see any approach as direct, thus being MORE direct will scare them off. Some girls see approaching as direct, but want you to be honest and cut the bull**** (thus they want you to make yourself clear).

 

[nismo-4]

If you are good looking enough and a girl is attracted to you already then just about anything can work cause you dont really have to try... eg. what lines do you think brad pit has to use? exactly.

NOTE: the harder a woman makes you work to F the less attracted to you she is. While she is making you take her out and wait 2 months to F... There is always some dudes she will F with in minutes of meeting them.

Is your dad an auto mechanic? You've got such a fine tuned up body.

Is that a mirror in your pants? I can see myself in them.

Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, and any NBA star could use a cheesy line and they'll get the girl.

 

[nismo-4]

LOL. How wonderfully direct. There must have been more to it than that though...

I agree. Something ain't right here. Something else had to go on. This sounds like a movie scene.

 

[bigjohnson]

I've asked them if they will bear my children in one form or another, never had an outright bad result, a few good endings. It's more how you say it than what you say.

 

[ready123]

Atleast there is no possibility of her mistaking you are just trying to be friendly.

yea there is. if you come across needy or uncalibrated, she'll automatically think you're a stalker or desperate wierdo

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

Ok I just read the shock & awe thread http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137824

It is something I've always wanted to do, and being the jerk I'm, I could do it more confidently than I would with some cheesy opinion opener. My question is, when I say to her "Do you want to come home with me?", and suppose she asks "Why?" instead of going to shock & awe, what should I do?

 

[daygameguy]

yea there is. if you come across needy or uncalibrated, she'll automatically think you're a stalker or desperate wierdo

Agreed.


To the OP -

Being a PUA or a skilled DJ is not about being a weak ass punk. It is all about being socially smart and savvy, knowing what to say, when to say it, how to say it.

I would suggest you approach in a friendly tone, qualify her a couple of times, THEN show interest for legitimate reasons beyond her looks.

But if you go direct or apocalypse, REMEMBER, you dont want to come off as a jerk or just plain dumb and bold, you are putting out most honest sincere unapologetic attitude out to her with a smile.... Don't freak her out.

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

James Bond used lines similar to the ones in question in 2 movies; in Die another day - ".... They feast, like there is no tomorrow (at night)" and in Casino Royale "How about a drink at my place" to women he just met.

 

[Duffdog]

Ok I just read the shock & awe thread http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137824

It is something I've always wanted to do, and being the jerk I'm, I could do it more confidently than I would with some cheesy opinion opener. My question is, when I say to her "Do you want to come home with me?", and suppose she asks "Why?" instead of going to shock & awe, what should I do?

She is looking for you to fall out of your confidence. The correct response is:

m "do you want to come home with me?"

f "why?"

m "why not?" or my favorite: "because it would be fun" or "what else are you doing?"

Again, I don't like this as an opener because there are so many things that could go wrong. But, I would and have used it in the middle of a conversation or after a kiss just to seal the deal for sure.

 

[DonGorgon]

Thats one of those lines that will work great if she already thinks ur hot and her friends agree... if ur less than a 7 in her eyes dot do it...LOL

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

I always get contradicting statements about appearance. Logically I would say women would go by looks just like men do but for long I believed the sayings of the s.o.b. David DeAngelo who said confidence matters more . Still I have trouble imagining a hot girl choosing an older bald dude who is confident and funny, over a hot looking younger guy with head full of hair who is a little shy. And your statement (and the other guy's that mentioned Brad Pitt not having to worry about what he says) seems to support that idea.