Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Some Dude's Mall Sarge

Maximus Rex

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I've only been on it a week and there's a DISTANCT DIFFERENCE between www.sosuave.net and www.mysterymethod.com. I'm coming to compile more evidence so I'll be able to an informed comparison of both sites. But from what I see right now, the guys over there are doing what the guys over here should be doing. Anyway, the following is some dude's mall sarge on a HB10. Though he didn't number close, I like the way he went about it. Maybe it could be helpful to some of the newbies in here.



Went out with a wing tonight to a mall, saw a HB10 working at one of those perfume booths, i went up to her and said “excuse me, im trying to buy a gift for a friend of mine, she really likes [store brand], but we are not like bf/gf, she bought me a gift and i want to return the favor, but i dont wanna spend too much or give her the impression that i like...”

i think she might have suspected that im hitting on her so she started asking specific questions about the girl "whats her hair color?" "whats her personality like" she even asked my buddy if he knows this girl too, he replied "i've seen her but i dont know her as good as [me]" I had answers for every question right away with no hesitation.

after that **** test, set blew open. she was asking all kinds of questions, being very helpful, she touched me multiple times, asked how i know this girl, etc. all kinds of IOIs. standing very close to me. I negged her a couple of times indirectly.

i made her laugh a bunch of times, there was a nicole kidman poster there, i said "oh is that nicole kidman? i didnt know she works here." that good a good laugh. being a complete alpha male.

i said, i like this but im gonna look around for other stuff, i might come back. we shook hands and she introduced herself. left the store.

I waited for 30 minutes, walking around, approaching other sets, went back there and said "i found some better products, some cheaper too, but i didnt really like their salesperson"

then she said, she had been thinking and “if the girl really likes [brand], i shouldnt get her [brand] cause that might telegraph too much interest”. i said "well, im thinking if i really like airplanes, and a girl gives me a motorcycle..." she finished the sentence "you are gonna be like wtf"

[me] btw, isnt what you are doing right now against your corporate duties? [laugh]
[hb] hahha...it probably is..but pheww...whatever

conversation continued,

[hb] do you want it wrapped?
[me] how long does it take?
[hb] about 3 minutes...why are you in a rush?
[me] yeah my buddy is waiting for me...
[hb] oh I can give you the stuff if you wanna wrap it yourself
[me] nah...i would rather have you wrap it.
she giggled
i was looking around...she asked
[hb] so why dont you like this girl?
[me] well, i dont like every girl...im sure you are the same way...you dont date any guy, do you?
[hb] no...blah blah
[hb] is she cute?
[me] yeah she is pretty cute. just not my type...i might try to get my best buddy [wing] with her...he is a really cool guy
[hb] you are such a jerk [laughed]
[hb] why dont you just tell her directly?
[me] i dont wanna break her heart, i think she is gonna find out sooner or later. i dont wanna be mean you know. i mean put yourself in her situation.

she accidentally gave me a product that was $70 instead of the $50 we originally talked about.

[me] and thanks to you...buying her a $100 gift, she is really gonna get the right message now [laugh]
[me] if anything happens im blaming it on you [HB name]
[hb] hahaa....yeah just send her here, i will tell her whats up [laugh]

after she wrapped it up and everything. she handed me the bag...i said

[me] come here for a second.
[hb] gave me her hand...."whaaat" [in a playful way]

i pulled her hand toward me, out of her zone, and said

[me] i dont usually do this.....but what do u say we go out sometimes, just to hang out?
[her] oh actually, i have a boyfriend...[laugh]
[me] damn, do you...

i didnt know what to reply at this point. i thought of saying "oh its okay, im gay anyway" but i didnt think it would work...

so i said, thanks anyways, continued the conversation about how long i can return the item, etc.

She was a HB10, and i think when i pulled her out of her zone, it grabbed other booth girls attention, and she didnt want to look like a slut? i know i had impressed every girl that was close by since it looked like the two of us are having a great conversation/time.

other stuff that happened

- after she gave me the $70 item instead of $50, i turned to the girl next booth and said it loud "does she always over charge customers like this?” and she was very responsive “oh not that I know of…blah blah…”

- she asked me how old this girl was...i said 19...when i came back for the second time.. she just told me she is 19 too. she also did couple of other stuff to qualify herself to me.

Im not sure what went wrong. She was the most beautiful girl in the whole Macy’s. so maybe she wanted to impress other girls by saying “oh you saw that handsome guy…he asked me out…woohooo” or she didn’t feel comfortable enough giving me her # in front of them. Not sure. or maybe and very much possibly (given she was a HB10) she did have a bf. Any comments welcome.

Also, I gotto go back there tomorrow to return this stupid item, so I might see her again. Continue or stop gaming her?


Here's the link so you can read the responses.http://www.themysterymethod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29189
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Zero Hero

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This is what I was saying...PUA is better at the start because those guys have a SPECIFIC STRATEGY in mind...when you do PUA its more like a game and you couldn't give a darn if you are rejected. You're just testing stuff out. 95% of the guys on here are outcome-dependent so they don't try anything.
 

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You asked her if you could take her out. That was the only potential mistake and maybe she really does have a possessive bf but... here's how I would have ended that. I would have asked her a few more questions about herself and would have done so whes she asked you if you liked that girl:

Instead of saying your friend is not my type, read what i would have said below.


Her: Do you think shes cute?
Me: Shes cute but i'm keeping things as just friends. I value our friendship.
Me: Do you get much vacation time with this job?
Her: Yea we got two weeks?
Me: Wow thats great. I had the most incredible vacation last year in europe.
Me: Let me ask you. What is your idea of a romantic vacation (keeps things sexual)
Her: Blah blah blah
Me: (pulling her hand towards me)
Me: Its been great getting to know you and you know what... (pulls out phone) Put your number here in my phone and i'll call you sometime and give you a chance to get to know me better.

Maximus Rex said:
I've only been on it a week and there's a DISTANCT DIFFERENCE between www.sosuave.net and www.mysterymethod.com.
 
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95% of the guys on here are outcome-dependent so they don't try anything.
I found that to be funny as hell. I also believe it's true. Also a lot of the guys of on this don't want advice on pick up. They want advice on maintaining their one-itis and advice on how to get the next guy's girl.
 

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Only problem was the guy used the situation as a crutch...

Once he got off the crutch, he fell down because he hadn't developed any real rapport or communication with her. Obvious outcome, but good to see guys trying to change their lives... Charm good advice, he needed to actually communicate with her as a REAL person, not a saleswoman


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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I can't comment on a specific situations because I wasn't there. However, I can comment about mall game in general.

1) Use the food court. That's the easiest place to game mall workers. If you see a female sitting alone without kids, she will almost always be A) waiting for someone or B) a mall worker. Either way it should be easy to start a chat.

2) Kiosks are easier to game workers in than stores. Often there will be lone female workers bored out of their minds at kiosks, and there can be less supervision and distractions there.

3) I mostly game shoppers (anywhere) or mall workers (in the food court). I don't really waste much effort with them in the store unless it's really slow or I already know them a bit.

4) Great job on taking action! Don't beat yourself up!

So in response to the specific question, I would ideally I see her in the food court and proceed in that environment. That's where I have had a lot of my mall successes, in the food court and the periphery of the mall rather than in stores themselves, but YMMV.

Hope that helps!
 

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My advice in short is to communicate with her as a person, develop more rapport by asking her questions unrelated to the sale (personal,hobbies,family,interests,hobbies,vacations,the holidays). Rapport is essential.
 
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