Social proof is everything

[skinnyguy]

I have been using online dating for 13 years and have literally never gotten laid off of it. In fact, I've probably been on less than 5 dates as a result of OLD.

This past weekend I hooked up with an HB 8 Asian girl with a hot body at a wedding. The reason was that I knew her friends, and she knew I was legit. If I had messaged her online, there is no way in the world she would have given me the time of day.

Bottom line: Stop wasting time online if you're not getting results. You might try to tweak your pictures and stuff, but at the end of the day the girls will only go for the hottest guy. You're better off daygaming because those girls aren't comparing you to the better guy's profile. They are also less prone to being racist if they meet you in person.

In reality, the best way is to meet someone you have some sort of connection with already.

 

[guru1000]

True dat. Though, why not improve your pics (i.e., professional photographer, photoshop) and do both ...

 

[DaddyLongShanks]

Having a profile up with well done photo's cannot hurt. Some women like to play around and "grocery shop" on these social media's and dating sites. If your photos indicate an exciting life an attractive guy, they might want to talk to you.

 

[Yewki]

OLD is a pretty cool place if you're above average looking, have an impressive physique, put up good pictures, are only concerned about getting laid, and don't mind banging down a point or two.

For everything else, there's going outside.

This past weekend I hooked up with an HB 8 Asian girl with a hot body at a wedding.

Nice man just hold off on the champagne until you get your **** wet.

 

[Mike32ct]

Agree with the post.

If another chick can vouch that you are "cool" and "safe," then you already have a built-in advantage.

Plus, you were at a wedding which was a more favorable environment for a hookup.

 

[goodasitgets]

I don't get how anybody says they can't get laid online and then claim to have a lot of success off of it. The majority of women online are fat ugly rejects that nobody wants. How can you not get those girls? Even the few girls that are hot have serious issues and are different from girls you meet in clubs bars etc. because they aren't socially awkward or f'd in the head as OLD chicks.

True dat. Though, why not improve your pics (i.e., professional photographer, photoshop) and do both ...

Photoshopping pics isn't the smartest the thing to do. The point is to look better in person than on pics online. When you go on the date not looking like your photoshopped or pro pics it's a total waste of time.

 

[Tenacity]

I have been using online dating for 13 years and have literally never gotten laid off of it. In fact, I've probably been on less than 5 dates as a result of OLD.

This past weekend I hooked up with an HB 8 Asian girl with a hot body at a wedding. The reason was that I knew her friends, and she knew I was legit. If I had messaged her online, there is no way in the world she would have given me the time of day.

Bottom line: Stop wasting time online if you're not getting results. You might try to tweak your pictures and stuff, but at the end of the day the girls will only go for the hottest guy. You're better off daygaming because those girls aren't comparing you to the better guy's profile. They are also less prone to being racist if they meet you in person.

In reality, the best way is to meet someone you have some sort of connection with already.

100% disagree with you. I have been meeting chicks from online sources for well over 7 years now. The key with online is that you have to really have a great personality, the personality has to show through the text so to speak. In combination with this, the chick has to think you are somewhat "cute", you don't have to be the hottest guy at all...but you can't be ugly.

If the only way I could pick up a chick was if I already knew her friends, then I wouldn't pick up anybody lol. Matter of fact, even in business, if the only way I could generate new business was from people "I already knew" then I wouldn't generate new business.

I do NOT believe there's a difference between a chick "online" and "offline", as if online chicks come from a different planet.

The same chick you meet out anywhere (grocery store, college, bar, etc) is most likely online somewhere, be it LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter or an Online Dating profile.

Here's the bottom line, if you are an Attractive Guy, you can meet women anywhere. What do I define as Attractive? I would think you need to be at least a 7 out of 10 within the following balanced categories of:

- Looks
- Personality
- Money
- Accomplishments

I believe I'm about a 6 in Looks, 8 in Personality, I'm a 7.5 in Money compared to my Peers, and I'm an 8 in Accomplishments. That comes out to a 7.4 out of 10. This is why I pull a lot of new numbers and consistent new women off POF, OKC, and in Person.

If a guy is a 4 in Looks, 5 in Personality, 5 in Money and 4 in Accomplishments, for a rounded total of 4.5 out of 10, forget about pulling chicks online and you will have a hard time pulling chicks anywhere.

Work on getting your looks to at least a 5.5 which is what I think EVERY guy can do, work on getting your Personality to at least a 7, Money to at least a 7 and Accomplishments to at least a 7. That's a rounded average to about a 7, at that point, you should be pulling chicks wherever you "sarge" as long as you are consistent.

 

[skinnyguy]

100% disagree with you. I have been meeting chicks from online sources for well over 7 years now. The key with online is that you have to really have a great personality, the personality has to show through the text so to speak. In combination with this, the chick has to think you are somewhat "cute", you don't have to be the hottest guy at all...but you can't be ugly.

If the only way I could pick up a chick was if I already knew her friends, then I wouldn't pick up anybody lol. Matter of fact, even in business, if the only way I could generate new business was from people "I already knew" then I wouldn't generate new business.

I do NOT believe there's a difference between a chick "online" and "offline", as if online chicks come from a different planet.

The same chick you meet out anywhere (grocery store, college, bar, etc) is most likely online somewhere, be it LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter or an Online Dating profile.

Here's the bottom line, if you are an Attractive Guy, you can meet women anywhere. What do I define as Attractive? I would think you need to be at least a 7 out of 10 within the following balanced categories of:

- Looks
- Personality
- Money
- Accomplishments

I believe I'm about a 6 in Looks, 8 in Personality, I'm a 7.5 in Money compared to my Peers, and I'm an 8 in Accomplishments. That comes out to a 7.4 out of 10. This is why I pull a lot of new numbers and consistent new women off POF, OKC, and in Person.

If a guy is a 4 in Looks, 5 in Personality, 5 in Money and 4 in Accomplishments, for a rounded total of 4.5 out of 10, forget about pulling chicks online and you will have a hard time pulling chicks anywhere.

Work on getting your looks to at least a 5.5 which is what I think EVERY guy can do, work on getting your Personality to at least a 7, Money to at least a 7 and Accomplishments to at least a 7. That's a rounded average to about a 7, at that point, you should be pulling chicks wherever you "sarge" as long as you are consistent.

I think your post is only applicable to attractive non-minorities, lol.

The thing is, a woman is less likely to judge me on my race or looks if she meets me in person and already knows something about me. The girls that I know from work really respect me, because I have status to them. In fact some of them ask me out to drinks, even though they are engaged. But when I try to talk to a girl at the bar...nothing. I don't think game would even make a difference.

Women who you meet online only judge you based on your looks. This is why hot guys clean up, while average guys or below average guys get nothing after spamming women with hundreds of messages.

My post is directed to guys who don't look like Brad Pitt (which I'm assuming is most of SoSuave). It's also directed to guys who aren't white. That's why I said "if you're not getting results". If you're getting results, then keep going on fvcking Tinder and whatnot! But if you're not, or if you have to really work hard at your profile, you're probably wasting your time.

I think it's different picking up a woman at Starbucks than it is on OKC, but hey that's just me.

 

[Tenacity]

I think your post is only applicable to attractive non-minorities, lol.

The thing is, a woman is less likely to judge me on my race or looks if she meets me in person and already knows something about me. The girls that I know from work really respect me, because I have status to them. In fact some of them ask me out to drinks, even though they are engaged. But when I try to talk to a girl at the bar...nothing. I don't think game would even make a difference.

Women who you meet online only judge you based on your looks. This is why hot guys clean up, while average guys or below average guys get nothing after spamming women with hundreds of messages.

My post is directed to guys who don't look like Brad Pitt (which I'm assuming is most of SoSuave). It's also directed to guys who aren't white. That's why I said "if you're not getting results". If you're getting results, then keep going on fvcking Tinder and whatnot! But if you're not, or if you have to really work hard at your profile, you're probably wasting your time.

I think it's different picking up a woman at Starbucks than it is on OKC, but hey that's just me.

I can post my pics and a copy of my OKC profile through a photobucket screen shot. I'm black, about a 6 in looks, and I have no issue pulling chicks off of OKC.

 

[skinnyguy]

Well I could really lower my standards and pull chicks online that way, but I prefer not to. You might be a 6, but if you're hollering at 4's, of course you'll get some ass.

I'm a 3 in looks and pulled an 8 in real life. Nuff said.

 

[MAYALL]

I'm a 3 in looks and pulled an 8 in real life. Nuff said.

That all depends what you consider an 8 to be.

 

[_sideways_]

I think your post is only applicable to attractive non-minorities, lol.

The thing is, a woman is less likely to judge me on my race or looks if she meets me in person and already knows something about me. The girls that I know from work really respect me, because I have status to them. In fact some of them ask me out to drinks, even though they are engaged. But when I try to talk to a girl at the bar...nothing. I don't think game would even make a difference.

Women who you meet online only judge you based on your looks. This is why hot guys clean up, while average guys or below average guys get nothing after spamming women with hundreds of messages.

My post is directed to guys who don't look like Brad Pitt (which I'm assuming is most of SoSuave). It's also directed to guys who aren't white. That's why I said "if you're not getting results". If you're getting results, then keep going on fvcking Tinder and whatnot! But if you're not, or if you have to really work hard at your profile, you're probably wasting your time.

I think it's different picking up a woman at Starbucks than it is on OKC, but hey that's just me.

I think you are the one who judges before getting ti know someone. How do u know that they're judging u based on looks?could be u walk funny.

Just because u were judged before doesnt mean everyone is doing it. People change and yadda yadda...i bet yoy judge, why, because you say in ur head. Oh that white dude gets pvzzy i bet.

 

[Yewki]

The key with online is that you have to really have a great personality, the personality has to show through the text so to speak.

This is definitely true for the real world, but for OLD I would say the key is in your pictures.

If the girl is actually attractive, she will be getting 100+ messages per week from guys. If you are not one of the most attractive guys messaging her, it doesn't matter how clever and intriguing your opener is, she will have no time for you.

Now if you're messaging unattractive girls, or just looking to bang down, then yes pics are not as important and your game may be key.