Social hierarchies and status in the adult world.

[Listen_to_Olly]

We can talk in great depth about Socrates or Tesla but here is the truth, even though those men were historic figures that no doubt changed society, most guys would much rather be Stifler from American Pie, a high school Chad, or a Hugh Hefner. I disagree with it but we, especially in American society, actually view the Einsteins and Socrates of the world as lower status men compared to some NFL star (and yet we wonder why our education system sucks).

The more I think about it, I could give less of a damn about "advancing society" when the truth is that some meathead with a double digit IQ whose only crowning achievement is that he can do a keg stand perfectly or is decent at throwing a football is the one being treated well by society and getting hot girls. So I don't buy the whole "change society" and "be revolutionary" ****, **** all that.

In truth a lot of these guys were objectively sexual losers, Tesla died a virgin FFS. I am happy the post above received no likes because it is so blue pilled. No one gives a damn about your character or any of that ****, they really don't, people hate "nerds" that can actually have a great impact on society. In the end, it's all about what the people (including hot girls) think if you want to seduce them because I promise you the einsteins and teslas of the world are not ****ing fine bitches.

 

[dk1990S111]

lol 250K won't even buy you a bedroom where I live.

I make over 100K per year but cannot afford to buy a house. In California you're not rich unless you're making $10 million+. My salary is below average for the kinds of people I'm competing with.

One reason I plan to be out of here by this time next year. Id much rather get out of LA and have a bunch of land, nice house, a few nice cars, all for less than a sh1tty house in my area.

 

[Mike32ct]

We can talk in great depth about Socrates or Tesla but here is the truth, even though those men were historic figures that no doubt changed society, most guys would much rather be Stifler from American Pie, a high school Chad, or a Hugh Hefner. I disagree with it but we, especially in American society, actually view the Einsteins and Socrates of the world as lower status men compared to some NFL star (and yet we wonder why our education system sucks).

The more I think about it, I could give less of a damn about "advancing society" when the truth is that some meathead with a double digit IQ whose only crowning achievement is that he can do a keg stand perfectly or is decent at throwing a football is the one being treated well by society and getting hot girls. So I don't buy the whole "change society" and "be revolutionary" ****, **** all that.

In truth a lot of these guys were objectively sexual losers, Tesla died a virgin FFS. I am happy the post above received no likes because it is so blue pilled. No one gives a damn about your character or any of that ****, they really don't, people hate "nerds" that can actually have a great impact on society. In the end, it's all about what the people (including hot girls) think if you want to seduce them because I promise you the einsteins and teslas of the world are not ****ing fine bitches.

Fair enough, but at least understand that people are just playing the hands that they were dealt.

Chad won the genetic lottery and rightly uses it to his advantage.

But if you were born average to ugly but very brainy, would you not use it, either to make money or at least try to get some satisfaction out of using your talent to improve the world?

Should Telsa have ignored his talent, not invented AC power, and spent countless hours of his life just to struggle to bhang an HB5? Or just accept that he probably wasn't a Chad and make the most of his life anyway?

That's one sad side effect of feminism and the difficult dating scene we have today. A lot of nerdy but talented guys are wasting their talent by spending hours in bars and clubs and reading PUA stuff trying to be the Chads that they will never be, rather than studying, inventing, seeking more education, and embracing their gifts.

 

[AttackFormation]

That's one sad side effect of feminism and the difficult dating scene we have today. A lot of nerdy but talented guys are wasting their talent by spending hours in bars and clubs and reading PUA stuff trying to be the Chads that they will never be, rather than studying, inventing, seeking more education, and embracing their gifts.

The flow of pvssy directs the flow of men. If you got laid by being good at physics, we would have generations of nobel aspirants and soccer/football season would be physics season with star scientists of their experiment teams. If girls had posters of Einstein in their bedroom, he'd be the one PUAs would aspire to be, not Chad. Men will do what it takes to get laid.

 

[Mike32ct]

The flow of pvssy directs the flow of men. If you got laid by being good at physics, we would have generations of nobel aspirants and soccer/football season would be physics season with star scientists of their experiment teams. If girls had posters of Einstein in their bedroom, he'd be the one PUAs would aspire to be, not Chad. Men will do what it takes to get laid.

No doubt. I certainly don't blame the nerdy virgin guy for trying some PUA stuff to try to get some 'tang. He's human and has needs too. I did the same thing.

I mean that it's unfortunate that a guy with more brains than looks has to put so many hours into game just to get even a little action. But that's how life goes.

 

[Mike32ct]

As a good looking, rebellious guy (got expelled from school, etc), who grew up banging girls at raves, I needed to learn game in order to figure exactly what the fvcking deal was.

It's bullsh*t that the only value on PUA is for guys that haven't lost their L-plates.

Guys who haven't understood the value beyond that, need to get a fvcking clue. This well runs deep.

As Roissy points out "the sexual marketplace is the one marketplace to rule them all".

You either get how deep the rabbit hole goes, or you don't. I am still at the intermediate stage, so I imagine you must be a complete novice to be so fvcking ignorant.

It's only so basic as you are.

Huh?

I was talking specifically about nerdy guys.

A good looking guy who already gets laid and wants to use game to supercharge his results and be more consistent is another matter. I never said there was anything wrong with that. I fully support that.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

Fair enough, but at least understand that people are just playing the hands that they were dealt.

Chad won the genetic lottery and rightly uses it to his advantage.

But if you were born average to ugly but very brainy, would you not use it, either to make money or at least try to get some satisfaction out of using your talent to improve the world?

Should Telsa have ignored his talent, not invented AC power, and spent countless hours of his life just to struggle to bhang an HB5? Or just accept that he probably wasn't a Chad and make the most of his life anyway?

That's one sad side effect of feminism and the difficult dating scene we have today. A lot of nerdy but talented guys are wasting their talent by spending hours in bars and clubs and reading PUA stuff trying to be the Chads that they will never be, rather than studying, inventing, seeking more education, and embracing their gifts.

Let me put it this way, for those smart kids who want to ignore women and die virgins, they won't be on this forum so for us to even talk about that scenario is a waste of time.

 

[Listen_to_Olly]

you guys are placing way too much importance on looks

 

[Mike32ct]

you guys are placing way too much importance on looks

There will always be some disagreements on the relative importance of looks. While I'm defininitely a "look-ist" who believes it's #1, I respect those that disagree with me.

My main concern is that, without looks, most women will shut you down hard before you can run any game. Or if they "let" you talk to them, it's just free entertainment for them or essentially friendzone for you.

 

[Trainwreck]

I think the money thing is overblowned. Girls want the characteristics of having money such as an Actor, sports player, rich Arabian prince lifestyle. They do not want a doctor that is smart with his money, doesn't drive a car he can barely afford, and etc. They want Mr.Fun and it's harder to be Mr.fun when you are in that middle bracket. You can be a line worker at mcdonalds, drive a new mustang on credit payments you can't afford, do drugs without the fear of a drug test, and this can pass as Mr.fun. Or you can be a bball player and have fun till you bankrupt yourself to death by 40. This is what women want in money. They don't give two **** if you make 100k and have a 401k, decent savings account, no debt, and etc. Plus, how would they know if you make 100k if you don't show it? They will assume you are just some lame old guy that drives an accord to his desk job.

 

[Mike32ct]

I think the money thing is overblowned. Girls want the characteristics of having money such as an Actor, sports player, rich Arabian prince lifestyle. They do not want a doctor that is smart with his money, doesn't drive a car he can barely afford, and etc. They want Mr.Fun and it's harder to be Mr.fun when you are in that middle bracket. You can be a line worker at mcdonalds, drive a new mustang on credit payments you can't afford, do drugs without the fear of a drug test, and this can pass as Mr.fun. Or you can be a bball player and have fun till you bankrupt yourself to death by 40. This is what women want in money. They don't give two **** if you make 100k and have a 401k, decent savings account, no debt, and etc. Plus, how would they know if you make 100k if you don't show it? They will assume you are just some lame old guy that drives an accord to his desk job.

Yes, women won't notice a decent earning but frugal guy. I'm making something like 95k, but live in a little 700 sf house and drive a older Ford Fusion lol. I'm not interested in sinking a lot into car payments, mortgage interest, and property taxes. The car is paid for and gets me from point A to point B. The house will be paid off shortly.

No doubt that a guy making less but with a nicer car would potentially catch more female attention, all else being equal.