"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Social Experiment 3

Reyaj

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Well I kind of got mad at her this weekend.

On Friday I asked her if she wanted to hang out. She said sure.

Then she texts me asking if we could hang out later because her guy friend (the guy she's seeing) needs a favor.

I got kinda pissed and told her don't worry about it, we can hang out some other time.

I haven't heard from her really since.

wtf!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm in an LTR so I like to hang out with hotties for the fun and eye candy.

Who knows I might bang one from time to time too, if I can keep it quiet.
 

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Jayer said:
Well I kind of got mad at her this weekend.

On Friday I asked her if she wanted to hang out. She said sure.

Then she texts me asking if we could hang out later because her guy friend (the guy she's seeing) needs a favor.

I got kinda pissed and told her don't worry about it, we can hang out some other time.

I haven't heard from her really since.

wtf!
Hahah! shoulda made a move, dude.
Stick it out though... she'll come back once she doesn't have any better options.

This is a classic example of ladder theory at work.
 

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Well the truth is I don't want to make a move because I'm not 100 percent attracted to her and I consider friendship more important with her.

Here's something interesting.

I sent her a text message saying I got some (it was a lie)

And all of a sudden she was interested in knowing more and wants to hang out with me all of a sudden.

I told her I sent the text to her by accident.

What is her mindset?
 

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We hung out this weekend and went out drinking just the two of us... I almost made a move but she drank too much and became sick. I made sure she got home safely.

I spoke to her the next day and she said I proved to be a great friend and she feels completely comfortable with me....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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We hung out all day last weekend, but this weekend she is partying with some guy she is seeing. I told her to call me later and she said she might be busy. I told her I dont care if you are having sex, call me afterwards.... she laughed....
 

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Alright well she texted me today and said she was thinking a lot about me. I told her I am seeing some girls and need her advice. Lets see how she reacts in this test...
 

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do you have a weener?

just bang her already. ur getting nothing out of this so called friendship.

There are so many girls out there...
 

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Jayer said:
For some reason after she said this I saw her differently. I thought for a moment that maybe I should just try hit it, but then I realized that I do appreciate her as a friend and the best thing was keeping it platonic

Hey bro, reality check, chicks are ALWAYS getting ass. It'
s funny how you were shocked how she slept with 3 dudes. i'm sure she's slept with more than that. Even the ones you swear are really picky and conservative, they're banging someone at the other end. I recommend you do the same.
 

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She actually has been a good friend so far and I've gotten a lot of advice from her. Just someone to hang out with you know. I think I could probably bang her but I don't want to cause I know I don't want anything long term with her and I like our friendship.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Jayer said:
Well I kind of got mad at her this weekend.

On Friday I asked her if she wanted to hang out. She said sure.

Then she texts me asking if we could hang out later because her guy friend (the guy she's seeing) needs a favor.

I got kinda pissed and told her don't worry about it, we can hang out some other time.

I haven't heard from her really since.

wtf!
Stop acting like a little *****. This is an experiment to see if you can just be friends with her. You're not supposed to react like a girl when she can't hang out. The implied expectations of this friendship are soaking through the surface, slowly.

Sandow said:
do you have a weener?

just bang her already. ur getting nothing out of this so called friendship.

There are so many girls out there...
I have to admit, the experiment is stupid. If you don't bang her, turn your penis in.

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Hey bro, reality check, chicks are ALWAYS getting ass. It'
s funny how you were shocked how she slept with 3 dudes. i'm sure she's slept with more than that. Even the ones you swear are really picky and conservative, they're banging someone at the other end. I recommend you do the same.
Agreed. If she said it's been 3 dudes, always add 2 to that, so 5 dudes.
 

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Sandow said:
do you have a weener?

just bang her already. ur getting nothing out of this so called friendship.

There are so many girls out there...
Ease up dude, he said from post 1 on this thread that this was a friendship experiment. He probably could have banged her by now but hasn't, and if he had this thread would now be gone and dead.

As is it's an entertaining read and I like many others are interested to see how this works out and what sort of benefits may result.
 

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Well just an update.. but I've been telling her about girls I've met and what not... she seems to be ok with it although sometimes I get the impression that its killing her.... I'm going to try hanging out with her soon just as friends of course. Lets see if she acts the same way knowing that I'm seeing other girls..
 

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Ack, this is like the de-evolution of a Dj to AFC. Those "..." are bad news bud. A lot on this board talks about how we can't take advice from women about women. Make sure to keep up your regular life too besides this experiment, at the very least.
I've seen a lot of AFC behavior in these posts, mostly in you trying to keep the friendship. I have a few female friends though, it isn't anything like what you've been describing.
Well good luck man, I think we may all be able to learn from your experiment.
 

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I have a hot friend who I hang out with but honestly for me its nothing but trouble. Sure I get social proof but I also get crap from other girls Im trying to make moves on when jealous kicks in. It's actually too much work for me to keep everyone happy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Thorns said:
Ack, this is like the de-evolution of a Dj to AFC. Those "..." are bad news bud. A lot on this board talks about how we can't take advice from women about women. Make sure to keep up your regular life too besides this experiment, at the very least.
I've seen a lot of AFC behavior in these posts, mostly in you trying to keep the friendship. I have a few female friends though, it isn't anything like what you've been describing.
Well good luck man, I think we may all be able to learn from your experiment.
Trust me... my main social life takes precedent to her. Anytime I have plans with my guy friends to go out picking up chicks I always go with them... She is really just someone I want as a friend for female help with stuff thats all. I'm not attracted to her at all....
 
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