darkjedi
Don Juan
Ok, so I'm a little confused and alot frustrated about when a woman tells me that they're soo busy and don't have time to say... setup a date with you or make it difficult to setup a date with them, but have high IOIs when in fact they are clearly not as busy as they make themselfs out to be. I know that this probably means they are not too interested in you, but lets assume this is not the case. Let me give an example of a situation I'm in which seems to be the exception.
First, how do we define busy? Well about me, I work full time during normal business hours M-F unless I'm on a project then occasional weekends and also side jobs, I was also doing school, I attend seminars and conferences, I workout, play sports and do hobbies, run errands, browse sosuave, hang out with friends, and other misc tasks to maintain myself. Now some would say that would be considered being really busy, but does this mean I couldn't find a way to do something I wanted to do like say... go on a date? No! It's about managing your time and deciding if something is worth your time or not and then executing. Let's face it, If everyone here had something that they really wanted to do I'm very certain that everyone here could find a way to make it happen.
With that said let's get to the point of this thread. Lately I've been dating women who give me this BS about being soo busy and unavailable. I say it's BS because it clearly is and I am actually offended that they want me to believe this stuff. One woman I've been seeing for about 4 months always gives me this "busy" BS. She works a normal job and has only a few friends she sees. She goes to the gym, but she will very easily blow it off to hang with a friend or whatever. When I try to setup a date with her, she tells me I need to do it more in advance and for the most part when I call her she does not return the call for a few days or even longer. She is not dating any other guys by the way. Other than that this is all she does and has no other activities that she is involved in. How the heck can you be "busy" with so little going on? Part of it is she is really lazy from what I can tell. She is always late showing up on our dates and always complains about having to drive to my house. Now when we do go out I end up with her back at my place and having sex.
On the other hand, I've just started dating an ER Nurse who has 2 kids and works nights 12-14 hour days who would work all night take her kids to school in the morning and then come up to my job to have lunch with me just so she could see me while having to be back to work again in a few hours. I know plenty of other people who rack 60-70 hour weeks who find the time to do things like date and ect...
So since I'm seeing this more, I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle these so called "busy" women. Should I expect them to make the effort to make time to see me and if not just next them? I feel that a woman will make an effort if she is interested, but maybe I'm wrong. The way I see it, as a man I have to make myself appear unavailable just so I am a challenge, but if the woman is doing it as well then it ends up being a stalemate. You will never get anywhere.
So what's the best way to handle these kinds of women? Please post your experiences or opinions.
First, how do we define busy? Well about me, I work full time during normal business hours M-F unless I'm on a project then occasional weekends and also side jobs, I was also doing school, I attend seminars and conferences, I workout, play sports and do hobbies, run errands, browse sosuave, hang out with friends, and other misc tasks to maintain myself. Now some would say that would be considered being really busy, but does this mean I couldn't find a way to do something I wanted to do like say... go on a date? No! It's about managing your time and deciding if something is worth your time or not and then executing. Let's face it, If everyone here had something that they really wanted to do I'm very certain that everyone here could find a way to make it happen.
With that said let's get to the point of this thread. Lately I've been dating women who give me this BS about being soo busy and unavailable. I say it's BS because it clearly is and I am actually offended that they want me to believe this stuff. One woman I've been seeing for about 4 months always gives me this "busy" BS. She works a normal job and has only a few friends she sees. She goes to the gym, but she will very easily blow it off to hang with a friend or whatever. When I try to setup a date with her, she tells me I need to do it more in advance and for the most part when I call her she does not return the call for a few days or even longer. She is not dating any other guys by the way. Other than that this is all she does and has no other activities that she is involved in. How the heck can you be "busy" with so little going on? Part of it is she is really lazy from what I can tell. She is always late showing up on our dates and always complains about having to drive to my house. Now when we do go out I end up with her back at my place and having sex.
On the other hand, I've just started dating an ER Nurse who has 2 kids and works nights 12-14 hour days who would work all night take her kids to school in the morning and then come up to my job to have lunch with me just so she could see me while having to be back to work again in a few hours. I know plenty of other people who rack 60-70 hour weeks who find the time to do things like date and ect...
So since I'm seeing this more, I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle these so called "busy" women. Should I expect them to make the effort to make time to see me and if not just next them? I feel that a woman will make an effort if she is interested, but maybe I'm wrong. The way I see it, as a man I have to make myself appear unavailable just so I am a challenge, but if the woman is doing it as well then it ends up being a stalemate. You will never get anywhere.
So what's the best way to handle these kinds of women? Please post your experiences or opinions.