"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

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So why the Hell she wanna go out with me?! (Read the sms's)

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Why the hell this girl wants to go out with me still?

Everytime we on the phone or texting each other she pulls up with " but i got a boyfriend" yet she still wants to go out with me, she told me that she is not going to get with me although she is feeling me but she still wants to go out with me? i dont fukin get it?!

Here read the sms's

NOTE : (lol i admit that i might had said some afc stuff)
(ill adress her as hottie)

Her : Hi Bfl
Me : Hi hottie wasup
Her: just chillin'
Me: cool cool, its kinda messed up that im not on your level but its cool

(she had said tha im not on the level to get a kiss on the lips yet, when i dropped her home from school earlier today she said "youre not on that level yet)

Her: no i did not mean on my level i ment it as your not on that level to get a kiss

Me:dang that makes me feel worst, i guess that only your bf (AFC) is huh, i'll back up then if im just wasting my time and your time.

Her : look i want to be your friend ok, is that a problem ? is that possible?

(At this point im pissed lol, i got to recognize that this was some major afc behavior what i said)

Me : Thats what you want for real? Dead serious now, that way ill stop liking you and hoping to be with u one day, i knew you never wanted nothing from me or never liked me, im stupid.

Her : Ok i like you but i have a bf ok , and im not going anywhere no time soon, if i was single then things would be different.

Me : Oh really... ok then

(at this point it was the end, i think you all can feel that she was kind of alterated and i was kinda pissed like "Wateva then fuk u " lol

but then i decide to apolagize to her, this is like 30 mins later.

Me: Im sorry for getting on your nerves i wont bother u with my crush no more.

Her : Can we still be cool

Me : Ofcourse i dont want to be your next anthony
(anthony is a guy that she hates)

(And this is also where she brings up the date
Her : lol u dont want to be on my bad list, we still for wednesday

Me : ok then good



And that was it, now my question is why does this girl want to go out with me if she aint interested...well she is interested in me but she has no intentions of getting with me anytime soon since she has a boyfriend, why does she want to go out with me? really.....

How should i approach her on wednesday when we go out? i was planning in making some moves on her, but im kinda confuse
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Boy .. that was some butt kissing going on there (about getting on her nerves part). You're not on that level yet? I would said, oh you mean like i got go get you ice cream first and drive it over to you (like her bf does)?

I think this girl just really wants to be friends. It's like that Cherry that posted here awhile back saying why is it not possible to be just friends with a guy who wants her? This has to be a key difference between the sexes, they can go and hang out with you like a girlfriend and love it, but us guys can't do it with a girl we like or even don't like if someone else that we're seeing is in the picture.

I don't think you're going to get very far with this one, and if you do, it's only because you'd be ass kissing her like her bf apparently does. She might be on the other end of the AW spectrum.
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
Boy .. that was some butt kissing going on there (about getting on her nerves part). You're not on that level yet? I would said, oh you mean like i got go get you ice cream first and drive it over to you (like her bf does)?

I think this girl just really wants to be friends. It's like that Cherry that posted here awhile back saying why is it not possible to be just friends with a guy who wants her? This has to be a key difference between the sexes, they can go and hang out with you like a girlfriend and love it, but us guys can't do it with a girl we like or even don't like if someone else that we're seeing is in the picture.

I don't think you're going to get very far with this one, and if you do, it's only because you'd be ass kissing her like her bf apparently does. She might be on the other end of the AW spectrum.
dang, i see... lol the icecream would be the perfect line to tell her but i wasnt thinking about that on that particular moment.

But dang though i dont want to be this girls bf i just want to fuk, lol. She seems like she would like to come over my place too, so if she does ill try to make it happen, i dont want to get nowhere far with her other than inside them panties.

but why that she want to go out with me then? and come over? i mean dang.

Also a few things changed here, a few days ago we was on the phone and she said that she doesnt love his bf and that she doesnt see herself being with him for a long time, but now she said that she aint going nowhere anytime soon?...hmmm
 

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Why the hell this girl wants to go out with me still?

Everytime we on the phone or texting each other she pulls up with " but i got a boyfriend" yet she still wants to go out with me, she told me that she is not going to get with me although she is feeling me but she still wants to go out with me? i dont fukin get it?!

Here read the sms's

NOTE : (lol i admit that i might had said some afc stuff)
(ill adress her as hottie)

Her : Hi Bfl
Me : Hi hottie wasup
Her: just chillin'
Me: cool cool, its kinda messed up that im not on your level but its cool

(she had said tha im not on the level to get a kiss on the lips yet, when i dropped her home from school earlier today she said "youre not on that level yet)

Her: no i did not mean on my level i ment it as your not on that level to get a kiss

Me:dang that makes me feel worst, i guess that only your bf (AFC) is huh, i'll back up then if im just wasting my time and your time.

Her : look i want to be your friend ok, is that a problem ? is that possible?

(At this point im pissed lol, i got to recognize that this was some major afc behavior what i said)

Me : Thats what you want for real? Dead serious now, that way ill stop liking you and hoping to be with u one day, i knew you never wanted nothing from me or never liked me, im stupid.
No offense man, but you sound afc as hell. It's no wonder she decided to stay with her man instead of going for the forbidden fruit. Her man is confident enough in his ability to keep her that he LETS her chill with you, while on the other hand...as soon as sh!t doesn't go your way, you break down and talk down about yourself.

Her : Ok i like you but i have a bf ok , and im not going anywhere no time soon, if i was single then things would be different.

Me : Oh really... ok then

(at this point it was the end, i think you all can feel that she was kind of alterated and i was kinda pissed like "Wateva then fuk u " lol
This girl was using you for attention. The last thread you posted about her, it was obvious she was using you to make her boyfriend jealous. I knew once he showed that it didn't phase him, she'd forget about you.


but then i decide to apolagize to her, this is like 30 mins later.

Me: Im sorry for getting on your nerves i wont bother u with my crush no more.

Her : Can we still be cool

Me : Ofcourse i dont want to be your next anthony
(anthony is a guy that she hates)

(And this is also where she brings up the date
Her : lol u dont want to be on my bad list, we still for wednesday

Me : ok then good
Another AFC move. You called her back to APOLOGIZE even when you didn't do anything wrong. This girl was leading you on and then shut you down and put you in the friendzone, and you're apologizing for not agreeing with it? This is such a nice guy thing to do, it's no wonder she lost interest in you.


And that was it, now my question is why does this girl want to go out with me if she aint interested...well she is interested in me but she has no intentions of getting with me anytime soon since she has a boyfriend, why does she want to go out with me? really.....
You are a back-up. For now you are a back up for her boyfriend, but by the time she breaks it off with him, she'll find some other a$shole, and then you'll be his back-up too. You'll always be a #2 with this girl. She likes to keep you around for the feeling of security (i.e. worst comes to worst and she cant find a man that's interested in her, she always has you to fall back on).

How should i approach her on wednesday when we go out? i was planning in making some moves on her, but im kinda confuse
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Don't go. Cancel on her and just tell her you're busy on that day, and don't try to rescheduale. If you meet up with her, it shows you're cool with her leading you on all this time only to put you in the friendzone. If she makes a big deal, calmly tell her that you're not interested in being her back-up man and got better things to do with your time then pretend to be in a platonic friendship, and that if she wants to chill with you, she should lose the man. I repeat, do not go! The afc inside you will want to go on this date badly, don't listen to him.
 

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Also a few things changed here, a few days ago we was on the phone and she said that she doesnt love his bf and that she doesnt see herself being with him for a long time, but now she said that she aint going nowhere anytime soon?...hmmm
It's cause he didn't give a sh!t about the fact she was chilling with you. He showed that he was secure in his abilities to keep a girl, and displayed confidence. That's a turn on for a girl, and now she's into him again.
 

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Re: Re: So why the Hell she wanna go out with me?! (Read the sms's)

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
I repeat, do not go! The afc inside you will want to go on this date badly, don't listen to him.
LMFAO!! lol i laughed out loud on this one, lol .

U right though, i want to go lol, dang this is messed up
 

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Her : Ok i like you but i have a bf ok , and im not going anywhere no time soon, if i was single then things would be different.
Translation: I don't want to hurt your feelings, I like you as a friend and because you are fun guy and you entertain me when I am bored, but I won't sleep with you that is my boyfriend job.

She is giving you false hope to keep you around. Its a classic tactic. Think about it if she really wanted you, she would have dropped him for you and wouldn't give you the run around. She sounds like an attension Wh0re. She is giving you false hope and you get to be the taxi driver/entertainer but not the lover -someone else already filled that position.
 

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****.....ok so now here......how do i cancel the date on wednesday? i call her up ? what do i tell her?

dang and if she really wants to go out with me? but wait i do too.
but why would she want to go out with me then? and why would she want to come to my place? she seems like she doesnt want to be with me but wants to just plain fuk, and thats what i want too.


man man man..........ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhboooooooooy

what the fuk have i gotten myself into.

Whats wrong with going out with her, how would that affect me? I can always make a proper decision after the date since things will be clearer.

And if i dont go do i still be her "friend" or do i just totally drop her and forget about her. and even if i do that she calls me ad textes me all the time, icant just not pick up or answer back all the time.

man.....:confused: :confused: :confused:
 

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Originally posted by bfl
****.....ok so now here......how do i cancel the date on wednesday? i call her up ? what do i tell her?

dang and if she really wants to go out with me? but wait i do too.
but why would she want to go out with me then? and why would she want to come to my place? she seems like she doesnt want to be with me but wants to just plain fuk, and thats what i want too.


man man man..........ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhboooooooooy

what the fuk have i gotten myself into.

Whats wrong with going out with her, how would that affect me? I can always make a proper decision after the date since things will be clearer.

And if i dont go do i still be her "friend" or do i just totally drop her and forget about her. and even if i do that she calls me ad textes me all the time, icant just not pick up or answer back all the time.

man.....:confused: :confused: :confused:

Why do guys like you ask for advice when you aren't going to listen to it? You're going to do what you want to do. You were given some decent advice. When this situation fvcks up for you, don't come back here crying.
 

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nah its not like that i just want to know whats wrong with going on a date with her, i mean she is the one that brought it up.
All im asking is why would she be interested in going on a date with me, and in coming over to my place?
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
It's cause he didn't give a sh!t about the fact she was chilling with you. He showed that he was secure in his abilities to keep a girl, and displayed confidence. That's a turn on for a girl, and now she's into him again.
Be careful with this thinking!! This hor is actually disrespecting her b/f by talking to bfl behind his back -- she will cheat in a minute if dude was tempting enough!!! This is a hor!

DJ BFL, why all the drama and effort - go after available woman - they are easier and available!
 

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And by the way that she sounded over the phone and the way she acts around me and body language, it seems like if we are in my place she will cheat, i know it man i just know it.

But yall saying dont go on the date and im like :confused:

Why not go to the date and see how it goes, if it goes bad then fuk it it will be a lesson for me and if it goes good then i can invite her to my place for late day and then go for the kill.


Basicly what im trying to find out is why is it such a bad idea to go on the date?
 

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nah its not like that i just want to know whats wrong with going on a date with her, i mean she is the one that brought it up.
because it's not a date! you are not dating this girl! you're going out with her as a platonic male friend, that's it! By going out with her, you agree that this is what you want too.

just drop her man. she's not into you, she was using you to try and make her ex jealous, it didn't work, you played your role, and now you're finished. you know how every sitcom will eventually have a celebrity guest on the show as a character? well that's you.

be a man, tell her that you're not gonna be her back-up guy, and that if she wants to spend time with you she needs to lose the man, and that you've got better sh!t to do with your time then pretend to be a platonic friend.
 

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Look if you want to f*ck her then you have to spend signficantly less time talking to her and going on stupid "friends dates" She's definatley not goin to give it up that way. Do what my room mate does when he wants to f*ck a girl who has a bf (And he does it A LOT) don't call her unless it's buisness/school related. Don't do anything more then sit with her for a BREIF (short short short) lunch inbetween you doing something else. Don't hang out with her on weekends, don't talk to her about how great of a friend she is, don't listen to her stupid sob stories or her relationship with her b/f

When she calls you IGNORE IT. You have more important things to do. Let her leave a message for you and unless it says something along the lines of "I've been thinking about you and we should f*ck" then don't even bother calling back. If she calls and says she broke up with her guy or something that's a different story, cause she obviously wants to get plowed. If you see her make your conversations short sweet and to the point. She'll probably mention if she still has a b/f or not and if she wants to f*ck you she'll let you know.

It's the same tried and true procedure my sexoholic room mate uses on girls with all girls who have b/f. to qoute him "They're just being stupid b*tches. If they're not calling me to get f*cked then I really don't have anything for them. I don't know why they all think I'm just going to sit around waiting for them to drop there b/f's when there are so many other opportunties out there for me to get laid" and he's right. If that's the route you want to go then don't bother being nice about it. Be direct, if somethings going to happen then it will. If not go somewhere else and do something more constructive with your precious time.
 

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haha well im glad that i aint pick up the phone last night when she called me around 12am

i dont think ima go on this date however i want to get it over to my place on thursday, and see if it goes down, i got a feeling that it will though, and if i do go to this "date" ima be straight up with her.

What hell has been wrong with me man? i cant believe that i acted like this with the broad, lol i cant wait in how she is gonna react and the things thats gonna go thru her mind thinking "Why he acting like this all of the sudden?" or " why this change all of the sudden?" lol watch
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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by the way i havent said this yet but ive only been talking to this girl for like a week and a half, before we use to see each other every once in a blue moon but we didnt talk at all.
 

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Originally posted by bfl
Her : Ok i like you but i have a bf ok , and im not going anywhere no time soon, if i was single then things would be different.
Last time I heard this from a girl (she had a fiancee) but I knew she was attracted to me, I still managed to get into her pants. Forget what she is saying, and look at what she is doing.

The one way you can tell if a women is interested in you is... she keeps wanting to talk to you. Let's get back to basics here:
1. She knows you want her.
2. She has a bf.
3. She is still willing to go out with you.
... you have a shot! ...

What you need to do is stop sucking up to her.
If she tells you that 'you are not at that level yet', just tell her "that's ok, I'd have to teach you how to kiss properly anyway!". She is playing hard to get, so give her some shyt. Or if you want to take it a bit further...

her: you are not at that level to get a kiss yet.
you: You don't even know where I was going to kiss you!

As soon as she gives you that "OMG I can't believe you just said that!" look, do NOT apologise or say you were only kidding. Wait for her to talk and if she says something to say it would never happen, just shrug your shoulders and tell her "your loss". Stop walking on eggshells around her hoping she will throw you a bone.

P.S. Don't pay for her on the date!
 

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Go out on a "date" with her and aim for the f*ck.

Try not to pay for the date and try not to develop an emotional attachement (this is where I think you are weakest). Loose this walking-on-egshells attitude. If you can't loose it, forget about the date, you're too much into her for this to work.

You got some fine advice from fellas here now it's up to you do go out and do it.

Good luck.
 

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Hey kid, uh,......hehe...............boy oh boy.

Okay, if you have not read my thread on The Truth: The End, read it, aight, just because it will answer some of your problems. Now...........hehe.......

Son, imitation is suicide. Either you believe and have the inner conviction that you are better than her (a don juan) or not, you cant fake it kid.

You talk about how you know you messed up, and how you know you should not have gotten angry, if you are an AFC, then guess what, you are FRUSTRATED AND ANGRY. Bottom line.

You must understand just what the hell a don juan is, read my post and if you have any questions, I will add further information on this thread or my thread. But as for the date...........

Well, I hate to be the barrier of bad news, but......

YOU ARE IN THE FIRST SEAT, IN FRONT OF THE CLASS, ALL UP IN, LIVING IN, BREATHING IN, AND ****ING IN........THE FRIEND ZONE.

Kid, you aint gettin no ***** from this *****. Its done. But thank the Lord above, (two claps), for putting all these *****es in the world so if we fvck up with a whole bunch of them, there is still a whole bunch more to fvck. REad my thread and post a reply to me kid.
 

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Someone please remove the "Master Don Juan" from underneath this guys name. Seriously. These mistakes are, at best, elementary. His constant self-justification ('maybe she...', 'i just wanna see if...') of his actions are apalling.

Ever heard the phrase 'dig upwards, stupid!'?
I think it applies rather neatly to this situation.
 

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