"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So which option in the where to start thread has given people better results?

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dmatter

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For the people here who have done either, what are you experiences on it? what have been your results strength wise and looks wise?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I got damn good results on option B, was in the best shape of my life and very strong only 4-5 months in to it, going hard out.

Haven't tried Option A so I can't say which is better. "Better" is all relative though... Take identical people, put them each on Option A for 3 months... One might get far better results than the other, and that might be the opposite on Option B.

The only way to know for sure is to try one of them out.
 
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wolf116

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Option B gave me great results and it's a very fun and simple program that can be used with slight modifications for the rest of your training career if you wish.

Option A will give faster initial results but will plateau and you will need to change program.

Both are great.
 
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