"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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so when you approach a girl. what do you ask? how long do you talk to her?

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If you approach girl at bar or in daytime.

Whats your technique? What questions do you ask? for how long do you talk until closing?

How about for bar scene to get her to go hotel?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If I gauge interest its really spontaneous and I try to make it as unforced as possible
 

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The most important things is, whatever you say, it needs to come across naturally. It's not as important what you say but rather how. Don't get stuck trying to figure out "the best" thing to say. There is no such thing. The words themselves don't particularly matter. Communication is mostly non-verbal. Trying to memorize lines doesn't make much sense then now does it?

When what you're saying is actually part of your personality it will resonate much better. It's hard to lack confidence or say the wrong thing when you are being yourself. When someone is forcing it or pretending, you can usually immediately tell and that's when it becomes awkward.

You can use ideas of things to say from other people and build from that, but ultimately it comes down to lots and lots of practice, learning your own style, and getting over the anxiety of socializing with strangers. How about this. Next time you see a cute girl, go up to her and literally talk about the topic of this thread.

"Hey" ... "It's kind of hard to think of things to say sometimes (smile)" ... "I get all up in my head and stuff" ... "It's like if you try too hard to do something simple, suddenly it becomes hard you know haha" ... from here there's over a million ways the conversation could go, and a lot of it depends on variables like where you are, what the person says, how the person is reacting, etc. So don't like try to memorize series of things to say. You have to be flexible.

If the girl was interested in talking, she would probably reciprocate and make it easy for you. If the girl is acting cold politely but promptly excuse yourself. For example, "Well it was nice talking, see you around." The hardest part of talking to a random person, is opening them up... because once they reciprocate, it becomes much easier as you can then respond to any interesting things they say and the conversation builds on itself.
 
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