"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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So what is this 50 shades book

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Every woman I know is rushing out to buy 50 shades of grey. Whats up with that? What about this book, makes it crack to women?

I know nothing about this book, but I asked a woman, and she replied "well you guys have internet porn, we prefer books" hmm

Has anyone heard anything about this book? Should I be concerned that every woman is reading it?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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What Samspade said.

It's about a man showing his dominance in the bedroom, tying her up and stuff thats not "normal".

Every woman I've ever "dominated" loved it too. Choke...pull hair...bite, they enjoy it. Just know whats the right amount of all that!!
 

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Oh I see...so although they specifically say they want us to be nice, responsible, courteous, gentlemanly and heroic, what they REALLY mean is "please smack my ass and choke me"

What a time I chose to be born into. Women are f--ked. If it wasn't for their manpockets they'd be utterly useless.

I saw every smart girl in public school throw their academics and career prospects out the window, as soon as they hit puberty. They are pretty much normal people until they hit their teen years, then they are disgraceful creatures for the next 50 years. Nice! But shame on us for staring at their tatas and rumps, even though they secretly like it, and dress like wh0res anyhow.

Society...meh.
 

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asid76 said:
I saw every smart girl in public school throw their academics and career prospects out the window, as soon as they hit puberty. They are pretty much normal people until they hit their teen years, then they are disgraceful creatures for the next 50 years. Nice! But shame on us for staring at their tatas and rumps, even though they secretly like it, and dress like wh0res anyhow.

Society...meh.
yes but frankly why should any hb7 or above lift a finger in todays society when there are 20 azzkissing AFCs trying to marry her at any given time...and if she divorces :rock: thats a lifetime of cash prizes taken straight from the man's pocket. :eek:

men are being are being manipulated on all fronts but since men don't seem to be fighting back on the contrary acting as though the manipulation is a 'challenge' :crackup: the best men can do is say 'man up fellas!' which means men have become the effective agents of their own slavery.
 

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yes but frankly why should any hb7 or above lift a finger in todays society when there are 20 azzkissing AFCs trying to marry her at any given time...and if she divorces :rock: thats a lifetime of cash prizes taken straight from the man's pocket. :eek:
Aha! Good point! If I could easily become rich by marrying some sucker who would love me JUST because I look pretty, I'd definitely be aiming more towards looking good, than learning anything interesting or productive.

So...essentially we are enabling their behaviour. And probably only like 5% of men realize this and we have to suffer through watching the other 95% placate every woman they meet. Which essentially validates the womans behaviour and encourages it to continue.

So we're doomed?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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asid76 said:
Aha! Good point! If I could easily become rich by marrying some sucker who would love me JUST because I look pretty, I'd definitely be aiming more towards looking good, than learning anything interesting or productive.

So...essentially we are enabling their behaviour. And probably only like 5% of men realize this and we have to suffer through watching the other 95% placate every woman they meet. Which essentially validates the womans behaviour and encourages it to continue.

So we're doomed?
the wise like us are never doomed we just have to stay alert and realize that all facets of the system are specifically designed to corral and emasculate men...unplugged men must never fall victim to this :box:

yes in todays society men are enabling women...it is not just enough to be alphas....the beta AFCs have to be eliminated...there must be no 'provider' in an equation where the women offers only 3 holes in return. :)

but times are changing, there will come a time when real men will need to step up :trouble:
 

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Hmm...so I have a date tomorrow with a woman who says she LOVES that book, 50 shades of grey.

Maybe instead of greeting her by shaking her hand, or hugging her, I should twist her into a full nelson and throw her face down on the restaurant table, yelling "yield! submit!" then just leave her there and walk away. lol.

Haha. I'd probably get arrested, but at least I would build attraction.
 

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asid76 said:
Hmm...so I have a date tomorrow with a woman who says she LOVES that book, 50 shades of grey.

Maybe instead of greeting her by shaking her hand, or hugging her, I should twist her into a full nelson and throw her face down on the restaurant table, yelling "yield! submit!" then just leave her there and walk away. lol.

Haha. I'd probably get arrested, but at least I would build attraction.

look deeply and long into her eyes, then calmy but with authority, tell her you are going to fist her....I think thats what the book is about?

Im reading the story of O at the moment, supposedly its better than 50sog but hell if it is, 50sog must be sh!t !
 

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If you get a chance to do anything with the chick, you should grab a handful of hair, pull her head to the side and bite her neck a little. Then say "if you think 50 dog is good wait til you see what I do to you". But you better be good enough in bed to back that sh*t up! When my ex was reading it she said it was boring...only a couple good parts. But I was already doing risque stuff with her in the bedroom.
 

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The only women I know who are reading it are middle-aged married chicks. I don't know any 20-something single women who are into it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Zarky said:
The only women I know who are reading it are middle-aged married chicks. I don't know any 20-something single women who are into it.
:rockon:

dang right, only ones into it are the over the hill , washed up , experired batchess:cheer:

21-27 ish are not remotly interested in that garbage
 

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Dear BetheMan,
Oh The story of "O"....Is a different genre....it has far more class....Fifty shades,is pretty superficial....As most Women don't or can't read books,the message only goes out to a small minority of Ladies anyway.....Seriously,the story of "O",was quite a good movie,still in the video shops here,and worth a look!
 

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asid76 said:
Oh I see...so although they specifically say they want us to be nice, responsible, courteous, gentlemanly and heroic, what they REALLY mean is "please smack my ass and choke me"

What a time I chose to be born into. Women are f--ked. If it wasn't for their manpockets they'd be utterly useless.

I saw every smart girl in public school throw their academics and career prospects out the window, as soon as they hit puberty. They are pretty much normal people until they hit their teen years, then they are disgraceful creatures for the next 50 years. Nice! But shame on us for staring at their tatas and rumps, even though they secretly like it, and dress like wh0res anyhow.

Society...meh.

Interesting post - could you give us details about some of these public school girls? I have had some experiences with them too...........
 

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Zarky said:
The only women I know who are reading it are middle-aged married chicks.
Yes I have noticed this. Lots of reports of how they raped their husbands after reading it as well. One husband confided in me how he wished she had read '50 ways to cook my dinner' instead.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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50 SHades is, at the core, a romance novel. The kink is just thrown in as a teaser. It's a deadly marketing combo. It's doing better with older ladies just as the world of kink does better with the older crowd. I would guess the younger women (in general) just aren't as open to exploring alternate sexual tastes. For many women it's probably something they grow into as they become bored with vanilla sex.

My wife read all three and said the last was really pretty boring and a struggle to get through. And FYI, the 50 Shades heroine never truly submits....
 

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It's not just a romance novel. It was a Twilight Fan Fiction book. The main characters were supposed to be the ones from Twilight, and then it got picked up and cleaned up. Which as anyone who knows anything about fan fiction can tell you, the writing is always horrible. Apparently 50 Shades is no exception. I've seen people rip it apart for it's terrible writing and insipid characters and plot. But then again we watch porn with a pizza guy coming to bring the sausage....pretty much the same thing.

God I hate that I know that.
 

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I've actually heard a lot of 30-ish women gushing about that book. And think they all like it for the same reason: it's female porn.

Just confirms what we already knew: behind the ****y attitudes and *****y facades, most of them just want to get hammered by a stud. I've never met a girl who didn't like to be dominated to some degree.
 

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I went to an adult shop tonight with a mate of mine. It was deaked out heavily in this theme. Whips and crops all over the shop. I had been talking to the same girl in the shop about **** a while ago, and here it was. She said it was becoming very mainstream. It is kind of ironic that Corporal Punishment is seldom ever spoken about. Even when watching movies or tv shows which cover a period piece, where it would have happened it is usually glossed over. What this book says to me is there is a fascination with this that society has tried to suppress. While it is clearly wrong to inflict it on children. Many adults have an active interest in **** and many more than most people would realise.
 

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The chick I boned on Saturday night is into this stuff but has been since before the book came out. She says that the vast majority of chicks who are into **** are obese.

My personal opinion is that obese chicks have to subjugate themselves to get men interested in them at all.

It's either 1) dress up in a bondage outfit and let a guy piss on her or 2) stay home alone for the 2935th night in a row.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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