"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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so, what is it all about in the end?

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So what is this all about?

why do we improve our lives, work out, get better bodies, better attitudes, better grades, better jobs, great hobbies, passions, better paths of thought and still have girls treating us like we dont deserve them? is it us? is it them?

why is it that eventhough I am beautiful, intelligent, articulate, in shape, carismatic, cultured, trilingual, artistic and very creative, most girls still refuse to go on a date with me?

I know why. I think I know at least. and heres the thing: its them. the **** is inside them. so if you think you are doing ****ing great in your progress as a human being but you cant find yourself a nice girlfriend, well its simply not your fault man.

the thing with me is this: I am too nice and I am too smart. and I dont mean nice in that overexagerated way they mean here with the afc guys (which are indeed aout there) and all. I mean nice like as a considerate person. Like you would be nice to ****ing anyone man. I mean nice in not playing stupid games like not answering the phone if a girl call you or not saying you like her if asked. I am too starightforward and too smart.

and now a days boys you have to walk with a stupidity flag all over you to bend in with the masses and their extreme appeal for symbols of status.
Girls are the most succeptible creatures (except children perhaps who are evn more) to social conditioning.
now there are girls for all types of people in the first world. Im amazed this site even exsists. you dont have work really hard in america to **** a girl. thats the truth. a little harder in some parts of europe sure.

now the joke is that in the conservative portion of the third world where religion is even engrained on those who are not religious and lack of money makes status symbols that much important and racism makes blonde hair and blue eyes of extreme importance and a 500 year old unresolved conquest makes for two kinds of collective identities of masses exclsuively, well then girls are a lot harder to come by. especially if you have high standards like I do.

can you imagine, all of you american or european guys, being a guy who likes white girls because he himself is a white guy, in a country where evryone persues white girls because they are percieved by centuries of racial history as being superior eventhough they are only 10 percent of the population? can you imagine not being able to persue the other 90% of the girls because the cultural differences between you and them are to wide to even imagine?

I dont complain that much. I had a very satisying relationship with a girl who is wonderful for about a year and since we broke up in the last four months I have kissed more girls than ever before in such a period of time. around 11 although 6 were in a spin the bottle game I cam to by accident je.

but why is it that after all of this, all the improvement, all the things I do with my life, I still feel I need to get a **** buddy or a girlfriend to be truly satisfied? why do I still say the wrong thing and not the challengeful thing everytime?

was this the reason why the girl I made out in a bar with last thursday didnt want to go on a date with me when I asked her today eventhough last thursday she insisted twice we should go out?

is it us? are we the ones who are supposedly just not challenging enough by saying whatever and ****ing up everytime? or is it them? are they the ones that are ****ing insane? are they the ones who cant find satisfaction and happiness? are they the ones who cant find a passion in life except making other girls jealous and being fashionable? are they the ones who never seem to have enough? are they the ones who, if put on our position would be slaughtered in lifes jungle but because they have a hole inside their legs they carelessly make their way through life as if beauty and youth last forever? are they the ones that should change?

and why do men idealize them? are they being plain stupid? why do men surrender their power to them? is sex really that important?
why do I feel I have to sugarcoat myself at first to make a girl interrested in me? isnt that unethical? why do I have to care about what they might think? is it tv? was it my home? was it so suave?

why are they important enough for me to waste such energy in them? why do I fail where I should not?

I havent written here in ages, but I needed to vent myself.

I am ****ing tired of girls. in the first world I wouldnt be man. I would be cruising. but here the *****es, they just want everything in exchange for nothing. they are just status seekers.
most of them are rotten. always on their games. always dumb enough to like the bad boy who drives too fast does cocaine and beats people up.
always confusing politeness with lack of challenge. they are not ****ing civilized. thats what it is.

maybe in the 22nd century sites like this will cease to exsist. maybe people will stop being so godamn stupid. men will stop surrendering their power to women in exchange for the possibility of *****. and women will stop being so power hungry and stop abusing people psychologically everytime they get a little power fix. someday i hope the dating scene grows up and all this stupid **** can stop for once and people can actually be themselves without apologizing for it.

the worship of ***** from men has to stop and only will then the abuse of newly found power for women (who are very power hungry after milleniums of being treated like children or animals) will cease.

stop idealizing external beauty and you will have the key to success with women. everything else is just paraphernallia.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonJuanMonk

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Why do you ask so many rhetorical questions, get off the soap box and make changes in your life if you feel unhappy

you posted all of this because of this?

"was this the reason why the girl I made out in a bar with last thursday didnt want to go on a date with me when I asked her today eventhough last thursday she insisted twice we should go out?"

So everyone else reading this thread, here is a word from your elite SoSuave Squad member - The Summary of "wise" mage's post is: "God damn, I'm such a nice guy, is dating worth it?!?!?!"
 

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Girlz are from a to b sometimes and then other times are from z to c and so fourth if you catch my drift.

When it comes to attraction their emotions fluctuate much more than us men. We know what we want on site. They know it too, but their emotions get in the way to appease their ego and ideal futures with the guy they have an interest.

They can find a guy extremely attractive but write him off because they can't see a future together with him (say he doesn't like hunting but her dad does so she wants a guy that can be good hunting buds with her father) - this type of BS.

She makes excuses to support her feelings at the time one way or another because her emotional sensitivity is much more accute than a man's emotional sensitivity. For this reason she is constantly evaluating him or sizing him up in a futuristic sense.

Many times her ideals about a future together with guy x are terminated by her due to her emotions and self-worth etc.

The only time the future sense and the emotional projection rollercoaster ride is not a problem is when they give up sex immediately. It then becomes more future oriented with her and said guy because she has already given sex. She has to have least SOME self-esteem though for this to happen, otherwise she's a slvt and will go from guy to guy getting her worth through sex and attention.

Many girls at that frequent the bar scene don't feel worthy of someone intelligent much less someone BOTH intelligent and good-looking. They're thinking a guy like that once getting sex will ditch when finding out how she really is. Other reasons are her own insecurities in that she only feels comfortable around guys that are the male version of herself (short-term bed hopping and relationships). In other words (see my Tattoo, let's see yours?).

Saying the right thing and being a challenge i feel is true though with all women, confident or not. It's sux, but that's the way they're wired. Emotional foreplay if you will.
 

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wise mage, stop with all the philosophical bull, you suck at what you're trying to do. Shut up, no, you suck. Blame mindsets or your region or whatever, it's not gonna change a thing, you sound like girl, no offense.

OK, smart guys get girls too, don't put us all in your catagory. You're simply frustrated that you can't figure women out. That's cool. You're also lonely, hell, we all get lonely sometimes. But unless you stop pointing fingers and realize that you're a great catch instead of trying to prove something, you will always suck. Just the truth
 

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Originally posted by wise_mage
why are they important enough for me to waste such energy in them? why do I fail where I should not?
Ummm... what do you expect wise-mage? It's not like you MUST get the girl. It's not like you HAVE to succeed. If you actually feel all this, I persuade you to come and take a step back into reality.

What you've written sounds very similar to one other post that mentioned something about not wanting to fail anymore. Get your head out from those clouds and put your feet back on the ground. Cause you don't seem to be enjoying the view from way up there.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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