"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So she rejected me.. but now is going to give me valentines card? Do I give her another chance?

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WTF.

Follow up to previous thread. There's a girl from work I liked, I tried kissing her on nights out only to get the dreaded cheek. Eventually I asked her on date, she agreed then ended up bailing. She then asked me on date. We made a definite date, again she bailed (saying she's not looking for anything right now - rejected basically). I went NC on her since then which has been about a month, just saying Hi, hello, in passing in person.. nothing deeper, would never allow it. Here's the funny/strange thing.. apparently she's upset I don't talk to her anymore and is going to give me a valentines card! (her friend from work told me this). She keeps messaging me/sending snapchat pictures which I ignore unless she leaves a question. She ended up apologising to me and said she does like me and 'should have given me a chance', but was scared of getting close to someone she works with.

Do I give her a 3rd chance? Or leave it be. I'm never chasing her again as her actions never match her words. She seems like a shy/awkward girl but it's like drawing blood from stone. In person she's never flirty/all over me like I'm used to from girls and she plays these childish games. I kinda suspect she likes me and finds me decently attractive (I'm above average), but doesn't desire me. She used to have a **** buddy from work (he left), sent pics to another guy and was casually sleeping with some other dude not long ago... so she's not an innocent little prude.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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That f*ck buddy ruined it, sharing pics with another guy. My ex would never let me record (to her knowledge) any sex due to a previous ex threatening her with the footage when she left him. Just keep doing what your doing and ignore her.
 

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She's already bailed on you like three times, you should be ignoring this woman because she's treating you like s***. Going back over and over just means she'll keep treating you like crud.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Ditch this bytch and move on! She just wants you as an orbiter.

If you're not first, you're last. She wouldn't be scared to get next to someone from work if he looked like Channing Tatum.

Alpha gets laid, beta gets played. You're a f**kin' android Match-3 game. She's upset you're ignoring her because you went from beta to useless.

Case closed.
 

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See what the card says, perhaps? Maybe she's just trying to spark something for her ego on Valentines Day. I don't see any advantage to changing anything you're doing at this moment.
 

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It's gonna be hard to resist. But I think I'll have to.
Mate, she's a piece of s*** and is playing you. She's got no genuine interest because she doesn't value you.

Thus it shouldn't be hard for you or "difficult to resist", it should be easy. Look at this with the same contempt she treats you with - go out and nail some decent cuties that treat you well. She will probably be green with envy and regret treating you like this.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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newtothis92

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Thing is, her friend keeps saying she really likes me and knows she ****ed up so is trying to win me back..
She knows I am seeing another girl now which is making her act this way I think, from jealousy... trying to see if she can still have me.

It sucks but it is what it is what it is.
 

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Also, I watch Corey Wayne and he probably wouldn't suggest burning this bridge completely.
 

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trying to see if she can still have me.
Do you understand now ?
That’s all it is, it’s probably only an ego pump for her own personal benefit, which more than likely does not include you…
btw - her friend is probably playing you also if she’s one of her close female friends.
 
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See what the card says, perhaps? Maybe she's just trying to spark something for her ego on Valentines Day. I don't see any advantage to changing anything you're doing at this moment.

Nah fuk the card.. What new Revelation is a fuking card going to bring.

Just look at the character she already is... She has banged other dudes, yet she is playing the innocent with you.

If she valued him, OP wouldn't be on here, posting dumb chit like this right now.
 

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Do you understand now ?
That’s all it is, it’s probably only an ego pump for her own personal benefit, which more than likely does not include you…
btw - her friend is probably playing you also if she’s one of her close female friends.
So pump her ego up and go use it to please another guy?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Mate, she's a piece of s*** and is playing you. She's got no genuine interest because she doesn't value you.

Thus it shouldn't be hard for you or "difficult to resist", it should be easy. Look at this with the same contempt she treats you with - go out and nail some decent cuties that treat you well. She will probably be green with envy and regret treating you like this.
Doing this will be considered taking care of yourself.
 

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Nah fuk the card.. What new Revelation is a fuking card going to bring.

Just look at the character she already is... She has banged other dudes, yet she is playing the innocent with you.

If she valued him, OP wouldn't be on here, posting dumb chit like this right now.
Probably none, I just don't see the point of jumping the gun or doing anything about a situation that hasn't happened yet.
 
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