"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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so just finished date with hb8.5

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Girl Called me today (canada day) asking if i wanted to go to the beach.. I gladly accepted. Things went well, she should be flirty and even showed me her booty clap i got saved on vid ;).... We suggested we go upstairs to my apt later, go out tonight and everything was ok...

Later when we got in the car she had a bunch of missed texts and brought up that she suddenly had dinner plans and she has to go shower (yap yap)...

I acted indifferent and was like "oh cool, np".

Now this girl always mentions other guys she hangs with (which i'm pretty sure she ****s a few of them too) trying to make me jealous or **** test me to get a reaction. I always stay indifferent.

As i got out of the car (she dropped me off) i just said thanks take care no kiss nothing... just dry and cheerful.

As i got upstairs to my apt, i text her
Me:"Thanks, I had fun, ms booty-clap ;)" just so i can try to confuse her.
Her: "loool fml"

if she texts me tonight i'm just gonna be "busy" with my friends as she lost out.

Is this the right way of going about it or should i call her out (which i don't think is right)? I wanna over come this chick and make her my friend/sex friend. I'm not really attached but I know she wants me/interested but is playing hard to get/i dont care game. I dont really mind being with her, she's actually fun. I've seen her 3 times, first time i got to see her flower, second time i hit it, got a freshly cooked meal and a massage, third time was today.

any positive input ?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Tiguere

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You shouldve went for the kiss like a creep. Creeps get laid . What happen with your agressiveness. If you instead of being her gay beach buddy were a man I dobt doubt you would had sexed her.

You have to make the h0e say no.
 

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Tiguere said:
You shouldve went for the kiss like a creep. Creeps get laid . What happen with your agressiveness. If you instead of being her gay beach buddy were a man I dobt doubt you would had sexed her.

You have to make the h0e say no.
what? lol i'm not sure if your scarasm is working or if you're serious>...

edit: would it be a bad move if i posted pics of her on my wall to hype it or would that make her feel like she's on a pedestal?
 

Scars

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Don't post anything about her. Play the same game. See a bunch of other woman and be sketchy about it and admit to nothing. Keep a bunch of plates spinning and everything will naturally fall into place. I agree you probably should had kissed her. She probably got a text/call from a guy she knows wont beat around the bush for so long. You should had kissed her 20 mins into that date, and had her secluded in 40 and balls deep in her by 50. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit but you need to amp up the sexuality, or sadly she WILL see you as some gay breach friend.

-Scars
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HoneyHitter

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Mass said:
edit: would it be a bad move if i posted pics of her on my wall to hype it or would that make her feel like she's on a pedestal?
Trolling much? Use some common sense.
 

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i did forget to mention,we flirted a lot and i did make her ''pay'' for some things she did so i had her kiss me 3-4 times. I also kissed her when i got in the car.

So if she texts tonight,my plan is to tell her i'm meeting with an old friend tonight i can't meet with her, but maybe another time.
 

Diaforetikos

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Dood, you already effed tonight up with your text after you dropped her off. You shouldn't haves texted her. On top of that, stop worrying about this one girl. Is she really that special that you need to make a whole thread about her?

You also said you saw her three times. The second time you hit it? I'm lost. If you already hit it, what are you posting this 'ish for?! Is she the only girl you can get? I highly doubt it. Stop worrying about her and go do something, aka, go read, or play a sport. Anything is better than meditating on this one girl. She's already on one of your pedestals.

She isn't important.
 

mahoney

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as you can see from my sig i'm not a big fan of texting - however i think a text immediately after a date is actually ok (its close enough to the date itself that its sort of part of it). this partic text, which just basically said "that was cool" isn't a problem (unlike the vast majority of texts that are sent)
 
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Mass said:
Girl Called me today (canada day) asking if i wanted to go to the beach.. I gladly accepted. Things went well, she should be flirty and even showed me her booty clap i got saved on vid ;).... We suggested we go upstairs to my apt later, go out tonight and everything was ok...

Later when we got in the car she had a bunch of missed texts and brought up that she suddenly had dinner plans and she has to go shower (yap yap)...

I acted indifferent and was like "oh cool, np".

Now this girl always mentions other guys she hangs with (which i'm pretty sure she ****s a few of them too) trying to make me jealous or **** test me to get a reaction. I always stay indifferent.

As i got out of the car (she dropped me off) i just said thanks take care no kiss nothing... just dry and cheerful.

As i got upstairs to my apt, i text her
Me:"Thanks, I had fun, ms booty-clap ;)" just so i can try to confuse her.
Her: "loool fml"

if she texts me tonight i'm just gonna be "busy" with my friends as she lost out.

Is this the right way of going about it or should i call her out (which i don't think is right)? I wanna over come this chick and make her my friend/sex friend. I'm not really attached but I know she wants me/interested but is playing hard to get/i dont care game. I dont really mind being with her, she's actually fun. I've seen her 3 times, first time i got to see her flower, second time i hit it, got a freshly cooked meal and a massage, third time was today.

any positive input ?
Perfect. Don't give more than you get. Let her get serious, which she will if you don't.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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PrettyBoyAJ

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Why would you text her after? I never text a girl after a date. always give it a day so she can think about you.

You were at a beach with a girl.... I hope you got your feel on because I know I would have seeing a girl in a bikini and I would have tryed to kissed her too. That "date" sounded like a friendzone to me to be honest.
 

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1. Shame on you for dating a chick who makes it clap on the first date. If she gets down like that she isnt trying to make you jealous when she talks about other guys-this girl gets around 2. EVEN BIGGER shame on you for catching feelings over a ho who makes it clap on the first date lmao simpin much? And dont even say you dont feel some type of way cuz you wouldnt be doin all this extra **** if you didnt.
 
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