“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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So in my past 3 relationships, the girl has had major issues with her father

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I've had a 3.5 year relationship, 3 month, and just pretty much ended a 6 month one. In every case, the girl has either hated her father, or not gotten along with him. I've always been told that I give off a father-figure or mature type image. Is it me? I honestly can't say that I approach women much.

The main reason I ask is because these girls are f-ing disasters, I never realized how much influence a dad has in the upbringing of a girl until now. The biggest problem that ruined it for me is that they are major attention *****s, I guess it's because they didn't get it from their fathers? I just feel like never dating again, it seems like every girl out there is going to be like this.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If she has issues with her father, dump her immediately and move to the next one. I am not joking. You keep looking. You keep trying, but dump those who don't get along with their father figures.

Don't try to rationalize it or try to figure out the whole dynamics. Just know that it's trouble, and it's trouble you don't need.
 

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Yea I usually stick with them, a. because I never approach women anyways so I figure what do I have to lose, and b. because they're usually hot (last one was a figure model), sounds lame but I'm being honest.
 

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Mavrick said:
If she has issues with her father, dump her immediately and move to the next one. I am not joking. You keep looking. You keep trying, but dump those who don't get along with their father figures.

Don't try to rationalize it or try to figure out the whole dynamics. Just know that it's trouble, and it's trouble you don't need.
I second this. Women with "Daddy issues" make good prostitutes, but bad GF's.

A pimp looks for this trait because he is the one trying to fill the daddy void.
 

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Well the divorce rate is about 80% and many dads dont even marry their baby momas, so most humans will have issues with dad... That is something we all need to work with and or around.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DonGorgon said:
Well the divorce rate is about 80% and many dads dont even marry their baby momas, so most humans will have issues with dad... That is something we all need to work with and or around.
Although preferable, a man doesn't have to be married to the kids mother to be a great father. A ring doesn't automatically make a man great.
 

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Although preferable, a man doesn't have to be married to the kids mother to be a great father. A ring doesn't automatically make a man great.

:up:
 

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"Yea I usually stick with them, a. because I never approach women anyways so I figure what do I have to lose, and"

What do you have to lose?

Well years of wasted time for one thing with a woman not suited for a relationship when you could build a healthy relationship with a woman suitable for one if you would get the courage to approach and go after what you really want.

"b. because they're usually hot (last one was a figure model), sounds lame but I'm being honest."

If you start approaching women finally and still run into and get with these chicks you are going to have to do some deep soul searching and ask yourself if its not just the hotness about them that you crave but do you also like their dependency on you and how you get to try and fix their brokeness and problems?

You see sometimes guys indeed do run into these AW with no ulterior motive other than getting with a hot chick which is what most of us guys want.

But when normal guys recognize the negative traits of an AW they being healthy normal guys will ditch her immediately and go after a hot chick with not only some respect for herself but respect for him and their relationship.

Its when a person finds themselves continuously in relationships with these destructive people that a pattern emerges.

A pattern of one's own making.

Now you may say but KontrollerX these hot women have come to me what am I supposed to do turn them down?

And I will say yes when the moment comes where they exhibit the extremely negative relationship destroying AW behavior eject that girl from a relationship with you.

See its not always by the AW's doing that we find ourselves with her, instead many of us are drawn to such women by a sickness inside of ourselves.

So question yourself to see if you have a desire and craving for these destructive types outside of their hotness and willingness to be with you and since you have a pattern of saying yes to these women repeatedly you might be surprised at what you find if you honestly question yourself about your past, how your mother treated you, how your father treated you, how they treated eachother, how society ie friends and extended family treated you when you were young, how you felt overall about all of this when you were young, all of these factors can play a part in your saying yes continually to AW's outside of their just being so hot.
 

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Yea when I think about it, I think it's because I always had a hard time getting women when I was younger. I'm a good looking guy but I've always been SUPER shy, so it never really worked for me. At my point in my life now, I just can't turn a girl down, pretty much my past 3 girlfriends have become because they came to me, or told someone that I know that they like me etc. The girl I just had a breakup with was crazy as hell, showed every red flag in the book, but because she was hott, and came to me, It never once crossed my mind to turn her down and remain single. :(
 

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And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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we have discussed this issue before, and there is a big amount of women in our age range that do have major daddy issues these days... but now fathers who are our age, are fighting to have custody or 50/50 custody or even become stay home dads so the generation we are raising is bound to have big time mommy issues.
how is that going to affect things?
 

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Don't mean to be rude but I'm trying to keep this on topic, thanks.
 

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Don't worry Jeff I think Penkitten was getting at something here.

But for guys it can go deeper than just mommy issues that makes us become drawn to AW's.

Rather for us guys I do believe it can be the entire parental interaction and the parental reaction individually towards us by each parent that can set us up to seek out AW's.

A lot of guys here grew up with a mother with a lot of mood swings and a distant father. The parents were loving inspite of these negative traits but their love took a kind of destructive pattern with their child that caused their child to grow up looking for that proper healthy love that they did not get.

The mother's moodyness sometimes happy sometimes sad either through depression or bipolar disorder have you walking on eggshells around her early in life careful to catch her at the appropriate time you can get love from her and avoid her at times when you know any little thing you can say will set her off to yelling at you.

The father's distancing of himself can make you feel unworthy of his presence and like something about you doesn't have what it takes to be a man.

The distancing and moodiness are common traits in AW's once they get their hooks in you and taken to even more incredible destructive heights than your parents may of taken them to.

The AW is the representation of a second chance at fixing the damage done you in childhood by your parents and society ie the AW is a broken little girl in a female's body looking for parental love much like their victims are broken little boys in a grown man's body looking for parental love.

So you fall into a great love or incredible attraction with these types of women not because they are so great but because they outside of your conscious awareness represent a chance at you fixing your issues from childhood through fixing them.

Anyway Jeff just describing a bit more for you here of why and how guys can fall into the trap of AW incase you may recognize more of this in yourself.

Maybe you never will and shyness really was the problem that allowed you to become entangled in relationships with these women.

One thing that seems to be a constant with you though is women come to you so if that is the case you'll just have to let em keep coming and turn on your filtering mechanism a whole lot better and say no to AW's or read Rollo's Plate Theory post and begin approaching chicks.

Penkitten wasn't totally off with what she said as single parent homes can produce a broken child as well who will grow up having mommy issues and seek out AW's but I myself and many others I've councilled who were broken little boys that later became men got our AW cravings from two parent households that the destructive parental relationship itself combined with the way our parents interacted with us combined brought about our co-dependency issues which led to our being drawn to AW's much more than normal women.
 

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Don't worry Jeff I think Penkitten was getting at something here.

But for guys it can go deeper than just mommy issues that makes us become drawn to AW's.

Rather for us guys I do believe it can be the entire parental interaction and the parental reaction individually towards us by each parent that can set us up to seek out AW's.

A lot of guys here grew up with a mother with a lot of mood swings and a distant father. The parents were loving inspite of these negative traits but their love took a kind of destructive pattern with their child that caused their child to grow up looking for that proper healthy love that they did not get.

The mother's moodyness sometimes happy sometimes sad either through depression or bipolar disorder have you walking on eggshells around her early in life careful to catch her at the appropriate time you can get love from her and avoid her at times when you know any little thing you can say will set her off to yelling at you.

The father's distancing of himself can make you feel unworthy of his presence and like something about you doesn't have what it takes to be a man.

The distancing and moodiness are common traits in AW's once they get their hooks in you and taken to even more incredible destructive heights than your parents may of taken them to.

The AW is the representation of a second chance at fixing the damage done you in childhood by your parents and society ie the AW is a broken little girl in a female's body looking for parental love much like their victims are broken little boys in a grown man's body looking for parental love.

So you fall into a great love or incredible attraction with these types of women not because they are so great but because they outside of your conscious awareness represent a chance at you fixing your issues from childhood through fixing them.

Anyway Jeff just describing a bit more for you here of why and how guys can fall into the trap of AW incase you may recognize more of this in yourself.

Maybe you never will and shyness really was the problem that allowed you to become entangled in relationships with these women.

One thing that seems to be a constant with you though is women come to you so if that is the case you'll just have to let em keep coming and turn on your filtering mechanism a whole lot better and say no to AW's or read Rollo's Plate Theory post and begin approaching chicks.

Penkitten wasn't totally off with what she said as single parent homes can produce a broken child as well who will grow up having mommy issues and seek out AW's but I myself and many others I've councilled who were broken little boys that later became men got our AW cravings from two parent households that the destructive parental relationship itself combined with the way our parents interacted with us combined brought about our co-dependency issues which led to our being drawn to AW's much more than normal women.
All of that makes perfect sense. Guess I will just have to bite my lip and give them the shoulder. Got a link to Rollo read? thanks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=90482&highlight=Plate+Theory

Here is the link to Rollo's great Plate Theory post.

I got a few other posts to link you to one is by Victory Unlimited and the rest are by Rollo. Some are in the Rollo post that I will link to that you can click on and read after reading Plate Theory and the new Rollo post that contains the links to his other posts on how to deprogram from AFC scarcity mentality thinking. I'll edit them in below this paragraph after I find them...

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=141760

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1384590#post1384590
 

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Well today I turned down the first good looking piece of ass in my life. My recent ex text'd me tonight when I was out with my friends and asked me to come over later, was hard as hell especially after not being laid since we split up, but I told her I was busy.
 

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I think it really depends on the person. Are woman who have daddy issues more fvcked up than woman who don't. The majority probably are but there are girls who I am sure that never had there dad around but still make great GF... I have not run into any however.
 

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I had the same problem of attracting broken people into my life.

I sat down and thought long and hard about myself.

I realized that the one person that is doing this is MYSELF. I am attracting them to me. That very day, I left the old me right there and became a new person.

Now I have a GREAT relationship with a person that loves both of her parents and family. She has a good head on her shoulders and no arguments in ten months.

comic_relief
 

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JeffMerr said:
I've had a 3.5 year relationship, 3 month, and just pretty much ended a 6 month one. In every case, the girl has either hated her father, or not gotten along with him. I've always been told that I give off a father-figure or mature type image. Is it me? I honestly can't say that I approach women much.

The main reason I ask is because these girls are f-ing disasters, I never realized how much influence a dad has in the upbringing of a girl until now. The biggest problem that ruined it for me is that they are major attention *****s, I guess it's because they didn't get it from their fathers? I just feel like never dating again, it seems like every girl out there is going to be like this.
Completely agree with everything you said. I'm in the exact same situation. Father hating girl are nothing but trouble. Now I always ask early on about their relationships with their parents. These girls end up with the wrong guys and brush off the right guys. They end up miserable and it doesn't ever change.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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