"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
So I'm new to this...
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
l e g e n d a r y
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A guy with no PUA knowledge that approaches half the girls that he sees will run circles around a guy that "knows everything" but never approaches...
alot of this stuff is great and def helps but just reading it is like experiencing 1% of it, the other 99 is applying it while talking to girls.
my only other suggestion is don't get too hung up on this method vs. that style, which is the best particular one you have to follow to the T, etc....focus on improving YOURSELF, by taking bits and pieces from anything that helps YOU.
good luck and enjoy your journey man!
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Enjoy the ride and see for yourself that all women are NOT the same.
Excuses I can remember is oh I cant ask her out she's in my class for the next several years (I'm in college right now), and I don't want to creep her out or something and have her telling others about me.
Another excuse is oh its too public I feel like I'd have an audience looking at me fail. Or that she's just there to shop doesn't want to be bothered. I make these excuses and just cant get over them. Some sort of fear gets over me and I can't do it. Any tips?
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Also you should usually get a gut feeling as to whether a girl likes you or not. To be honest you should start asking girls in your classes to hang out... Chat to them in class a bit, tease them, make them laugh then try to get them out one on one.
A couple of things I will tell you is that when a girl maybe says negative things about you to her friends or others, for example that you're ugly and she'd never date you, don't believe it for a second. Those things are meaningless and what she may say to her friends is often not entirely true. Just push forward, make moves on her and see what happens, judge her by her actions not the things she says.
Also when you speak to a girl for the first time there is nearly always a spark/she will have interest in you. I think this is what people think is the "friend zone", when the initial spark of interest fades, but in my opinion the friend zone is a myth and simply means that the way you are coming across to her is not attractive to her, but it's certainly not something set in stone, just that once the initial interest goes then it can be hard to get it going again.
But you won't even make that mistake anymore. From now on look for the initial spark of interest, believes me it's there with nearly all women you meet for the first time. Capitalize on it. If she seems interested escalate things with her. You need to be the one to make things happen most of the time, if you don't actively try to make things happen they won't... So be sure to go for what you want and if you want to have sex with a girl actually get her back to your place and escalate. Male a conscious effort to actually make a move on many girls.
I think that's about it, so just be aware of those things. But the most important thing is you start speaking to women and experiencing things for yourself.
Sorry if it's hard to read I'm writing on a smartphone and it's kinda hard to write on here, but hopefully you get what I'm saying.
The times I've gotten the most overt interest from women and/or been approached by women was when I was displaying dominant body language. It really works.
Even when you aren't in the process of meeting women, use your time in public wisely by learning to closely observe and interpret other peoples' body language.
Use your powers of observation to become aware of when girls are sending you indicators of interest (IOIs). IOIs are generally subtle. The most common IOI I see is women noticing the guy, then placing themselves in his vicinity so that he can approach them and start a conversation.
Become more social in general. Start conversations with people you don't know when you are in public. Male, female, young, old, ugly, good-looking. The more you talk to strangers the better your social skills in general will get.
You don't need to improve all at once. Small improvements at regular intervals over a period of time adds up to big changes.
This is a wonderful opportunity you have. Treat it as such. Older fellas like myself had basically no access to material of this sort when we were in your shoes.
Be honest with yourself about what you truly want. If you want a date, don't settle for a friendly chat. Chatting in general is to be avoided, as it rarely leads to your goals being met. Keep conversation light and fun. Know what you want and go for it, and don't make apologies for it or pretend like you aren't trying to get dates and sex. It is 100% normal and natural for a young man to seek members of the opposite sex for dates and sex.
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The hard cold truth is you need to go outside your comfort zone. You HAVE to experience that unknown territory of approaching and conversing with women you don't know.Leetsauce said:
What helped me when I used to be like this is remember that these women cannot judge you because they know nothing about you. If they form any opinions about you, they're insignificant because they can't tell your friends or family what they think.
On top of that, I like to think that women LOVE to be approached by men. They want some guy to come and make their current boring activity interesting and fun! They NEED some excitement in their lives, and you can be the one to give it to them.
To repeat what a previous poster said, you need to get out there and put your knowledge to work. It will only get easier with experience.
About that body language thing I tried the whole looking into their eyes, being open, dominant. I haven't seen a noticeable change yet but again it's still my first week. I'll keep trying.
All of this stuff is great guys thanks.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
She was running on the track, the plan was to approach and be like "100 laps whoo". I thought it would prompt a laugh then I'd ask her how many she'd done and regardless of the answer be like "that's cute" in a condescending way. I don't know if that's any good but I thought I'd run it by you guys just to see if I'm on the right wavelength?
Damn it was just silly I should've gone for it. I'll try again tomorrow.