"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So if "nice guy syndrome" is based in fear . .

Forty0ztoFreedom

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. . and we remove that fear. What is left? What if its something dark?

Does this not trouble anyone else?

The other night I told some girl to stop being such a flake and answer my f*cking question. I was wasted, but still . . how do I avoid being THAT guy and still have the self-confidence/worth to be a DJ?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Once you've realized your fear was irrational, all you have left is love.

The 'dark' side IS the FEAR. So once that is removed, you look at everything as GRADATIONS of Love.

Everything is looked at as having a certain degree of Love, instead of good/bad Duality type thinking.
Meaning, how MUCH love is there in that person, or how little is there.
Bascially, the abundance or lack of Love is really what we should be concerning ourselves with.
 
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not sure if being wasted, spewing "answer my f--king question" while being with a girl is indicative of being a "nice guy".

Fear is based upon perception.........we can learn to be comfortable with it through exposure. Confidence has a great deal to do with being comfortable. A lot of nice guys are not confident...... enough. On the other hand tons of "fearless smucks" out there that have not got a clue of how to be nice.

I think its doing nice things that women truly desire.........not being nice 24-7. Does that mean if nice guy goes out of his way to do nice things he should see immediate success............NO, not even the slightest bit.

Maintain that alpha-male, slight bad-boy image but occassionally let the nice things out.........well at least after she's hooked. Just don't make a habit of it.

OR change your definition of nice...........or the woman's definition.
 

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Nice guy = supplicating, clingy, needy, whining, negative, curses his life all the time, will do anything to be with a girl.

DJ = dictator of own principles, self assured, decisive, optimistic, patient, good guy with alpha (non wussy) characteristics.
 

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Nice guys are full of fear.

As my little green friend once said: "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you."

I once knew a 60 year old "nice guy." On the surface he was nice but after you got to know him, he was "supplicating, clingy, needy, whining, negative, curses his life all the time, will do anything to be with a girl," and a racist womanizing virgin.

Is that really a path you want to go down simply because you fear not being a nice guy???
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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No, I am committed to this now. I guess I just need to ignore these "what if" type fears.

not sure if being wasted, spewing "answer my f--king question" while being with a girl is indicative of being a "nice guy".
Well, it was said in a ****y half-joking manner . . Not seriously. And I apologized when I discovered it upset here. Should I have even apologized? This isn't someone I'm after BTW, just some girl.
 
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