"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So I Went Ganji on her

Capt.Jack Sparrow

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Well yeah. I am supposed to get back with my ex but I feel like shes been play with my head. Like she would tell my friend to tell me to ask her out and I have but then she says "hmm i dont know" So the next week she tells my friend she wants me to ask her out again. So I do it, and now she says "Lemme think about it, i'll give you a answer tomarrow"

So the next day she says she'll give me an answer really really soon.

Then thats when I decide in my head "Wth, this is annoying me so i'm gonna go ganji on her"\

So 5 days pass and already she tells my friend why am I ignoring her/ trying to avoid her. :eek:

Now should I continue to go ganji on her or talk to her about it?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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first off, that "ganji" crap is about the most retarded thing ive ever heard in my life, so stop saying it/"using it".


If you have to ignore a girl, and youve been a DJ(well you obviously havent been but still), shes a b1tch and not worth your time. ANd hey waddya know looks like this girl is a b1tch.


You are AFC, you will REMAIN AFC if you continue to persue this psychob1tch.
 

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I agree with Jester...I propose that "Ganji games" be officially removed from the List of Approved DJ Techniques, because any value they might have is obliterated by people failing to implement them correctly.

First of all, it should not be obvious that you're "ignoring her/ trying to avoid her" because that makes you look like a *****y little girl. The idea of "playing hard to get" is you simply do not give her more than passing attention. If you see her walking down the hall, don't turn around or try to hide or whatever retarded thing I can imagine you doing, just say "Hi" and keep on walking. For maximum effect, have multiple HBs with you.

Second of all, the concept of "playing hard to get" implies that you do not give a sh-it how this girl reacts to her reduced interaction with you. What you're bascially doing is testing her interest: if she personally makes the effort to involve herself in your life, then she is interested. If you never hear from her again, then she wasn't interested, and you have to say NEXT.

So to answer your question, stop ignoring her like a little ***** and give her a chance to make her move. If no move is made, then you're done with her, period.
 

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Why are you even wasting time on this girl.....? She just likes to use you to boost her ego. Kick her to the curb and find someone else.
 

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I think you should either forget about her or tell her off. I have noticed that alot of women find it sexy when you tell them the truth. Tell her you dont like her fvcking with you and she needs to stop, and then find another girl. But ya, she is just playing games with you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I hardly ever read anything with the subject GANJI becuase the name for one sounds ****ing stupid... it reminds me of ANIME :-x
 

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sigh dude. If she liked you she wouldn't play these games, get the message.
 

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In the time you've spent thinking about/trying to NOT pay attention to this girl, say this to yourself:

"I've wasted ___ hours/days/weeks/months/years of my life by concerning myself with something that I'm going to look back on later as petty and meaningless. I don't need to waste any more time on this."

There you go. :)
 

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The point of ganji games is that it is more subconscious for her, so that(in Pooks words) she feels a feminine failure, not a petulant childish strop along the lines of im not goin to speak to you again because you smell.
 

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I'm with jester, kind of.

Ganji games are fine under one condition.

-Deep down inside you don't give a **** if you get with the girl or not-

If you don't give a **** if you get with her or not, then you can focus on having fun.


Read Pook's post "Kill that desperation."


Dude your 15. I'm 18. I started coming to this board when I was 15 and I sure wasn't mature enough to grasp the concepts that I can now grasp.


I think you need to get away from girls for a while. Go camping or something. Hopefully you have a male figure in your life who has his life together. I doubt this though. Most men today are pussies.

Are your parents married?
If not, how often do you see your dad?
Are there any positive male figures in your life? Grandfather, Uncle, Cousin, Teacher, ect?"

In my humble opinion, I think that you need to become a man first before you should worry about women.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You dont need to be going out with this ***** if she is going to be doing crap like that to you. Since she was your ex she is probably just doing this to get back with you. Tell her and her friends you dont play stupid games and forget about her.
 

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I agree, this Ganji nonsense is a waste of time.

Bottom Line - She has low IL. You can Ganji her for the rest of your life cuz you'll never get her. If she's not interested in you while in your presence then her IL will not rise in your absense.
 

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Yeah well I was just going through some of my old posts and I remembered this thread. Heres a very late update on what happend.

Okay so I quit talking to her for a few weeks and she got sad, than she got even more sadder when I got with a different girl. It turns out that her friend told me how much she always talks about me, missed me, and such. Looks like the ganji did work huh?

3 Weeks later, me and the girl I went out with broke up and than a week later I got back with my ex. Now we have been together for 7-8 weeks. Everything is going great! So who doubted me ..?
 

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she's usin u for her ego man, when she realized that she didnt have any guy to fall back on she was like, wait a sec, i messed up, so shes feedin off you til she can find someone new
 

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Uhm.. Tooms be sure to red the whole thread next time.. this was long long ago and I have been with her for 7-8 weeks and everything is going great. :D
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I read the whole thing and i read it originally and i re read it. It sounds like you were getting played by this girl, maybe you were not, but she was your ex for a reason. I hate this whole break up, make up culture. Girls are so blo0dy stupid in this.
 

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She sounds like an AFCette.
 

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Well... Capt.Jack Sparrow, she was playing stupid games. She knew you were interested, but wouldn't get with you. I know that you wouldn't do that to her. Guys just don't get amusement from that kind of thing. If things worked out the way you said it did, she just seems to just want attention from you and seems like the needy type.

I guess it worked out for you, but it isn't really something I'd brag about. Congrats and good luck.
 

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its so obviouse this girl is jsut tryen to boost her ego, although i do think she has some attraction to you.

heres what i say, next time you talk to her say you had a crush on her last week but now you dont realy see anything in her any more, this will not only boost your ego but let her no that you are the man and you are in control, who know mayb this will make her want you? mayb not but the fact is who gives a fvck

paace
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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