When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yea I know, but what is with this "if I can forgive you" crap? Is there some sort of magic time she is gonna wake up and be like oh wow I miss him lets call and see how hes doing.....yea right.starplayer said:dude... the funny thing is you even seem to know this was a bad idea.
if there was the slightest chance of you 2 getting back together, you've totally blown it now.
look at this objectively. imagine you were giving advice to someone else in this situation and your emotions weren't involved. what would you tell them? - leave her alone. let it go and move on.
this was an incredibly weak move. but i think you already know that.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I think his ex will be studying all week so don't bother her. :crackup:nateistoraw said:lmfao, sorrry, but whats your ex's name? Because she IS NOW ON THE REBOUND! I am sorry, but you have been an a$shole and you are crying because that priveledge has been stripped from you!
What is your ex's name?
first off stand back..take a breath..i have been exactley where youy have been...with my girlfriend of 4 and 1-2 years..your dealing with a complex matter...nothing that will change her mind in a few days..trust me when i say this cause your quick fix won't work..i know this cause i got my chick back after the swame sincerio..it was rough it was hard.. but...it was fixed..pvf94 said:And she brokeup with me 2 nights ago.
I haven't heard from her since, I tried calling her the day after later in the evening. No answer.
Didn't try to talk to her at all yesterday, just stuck it out.
She broke up with me because she said she couldn't forgive me, that she was trying and couldn't do it. I treated her like crap a lot of the time, but she did love me it was obvious, even up to the last few days of being with each other. I just pushed her to the limit one last time and she cracked apparently.
I have a serious issue with jealously and insecurity, because she is hot and I always saw guys trying to get at her. The more comfortable I got with her, the more possessive I got. We dated very seriously for 1 year and 7 months. 12 of those months were just me and her always bickering about guys and girls hitting on either of us, it was mutual until recently, I could tell she was starting to lose it but damn...didnt think she would cold turkey leave me one night.
Anyhow, I've heard that if I am willing to change that there is always a possibility to be back together? I know it sounds stupid but I am hurt so bad right now, cant eat, barely sleep, think only of her. I have hung out with old friends and the whole gambit, but I just am not feeling better. She said she loved me before I left her room that night she broke up with me. She was rolled up in a ball on her bed crying her brains out. Saying that I hurt her, and that she doesn't think she could forgive me, I told her to try and find it in her heart to forgive me and that I would change.
She didn't answer my phone call or return it, I texted her once before that. I did a little online reading and I should of just left her alone.
Here is what I was thinking about doing....
I know I can change, and that I was being a complete idiot when I was with her. I know she still has feelings for me, theres no way she doesn't. After a year and a half of seeing somebody everyday and fvcking them a thousand times you gotta have some emotion towards um.
I have her bike here, that I know she would want back, a pillow, some sunglasses, pictures, and a ring.
I have school tonight from 5 to 8, I was thinking about just taking all of her stuff and going over her place (she lives with her parents, they dont hate me) knocking on the door and asking her to come out, that I had her stuff.
From there, I could tell her I want to give her space and show her that I will be different and that time heals all wounds, and eventually she will forgive me if she just gives me the opportunity to show her change.
Keep in mind, she has not tried to contact me once since that night. I asked her if she would call and she said yea.
PS: she also said she didnt want to be with anybody right now, and that she needed to be alone to get her energy level back to normal, that her parents even noticed she had been miserable lately. She repeated over and over that she is trying to forgive me but couldn't.
Give her more space? Or go over and try my last ditch effort?
I love her, I really do...and it's totally me to blame for being such a pr!ck. I can change it, she just needs to give me the chance.
Input? Try not to rub it in that i'm a prick...I am having a hard enough time knowing it, and I vow not to do it again.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
She probably lost interest in him because he treated her badly. That would be bang on the money; no self respecting person is going to be involved with someone who takes their issues out on them.starplayer said:i totally agree with this. it wasn't because of treating her badly - it was because she lost interest.
I feel absolutely sick to the pit of my stomach. I cringed so much that I almost fell out of my chair. WTF is this?pvf94 said:You are all going to call me a chump but, I went over before class today and brought her a few things that belonged to her.
Her dad said she was sleeping when I knocked on the door, excuse...whatever he was in there for a while she finally answered the door came outside and sat on the porch with me...I talked to her she seemed pretty lifeless and depressed. Told her a good chunk of stuff that I did wrong in our relationship, how I was wrong for a lot of things...and I was wrong for a lot...no way about it I treated her horribly.
She said to come inside that she had some stuff to give me. Went inside, went to her bedroom and sat on her bed with her. She asked what I brought of hers, I told her "Pillow, pictures, stuffed toy rabbit, ring.
She was like...I got some of your stuff in boxes in the garage...(They just moved to this house....thats why it was out there). And she had some shorts of mine that she wore, and other stuff...but she soon enough didn't bother to mention any of it after that. I mostly talked while she listened, she looked at me with a cold stare most of the time. I noticed she had a few clothes laying around, and some panties laying around (something she never really wore, you could tell she wore um cuz they had that usual discharge crusted up on um...haha or some guys cvm....whatever possible but probably not judging by the fact that she looked like she hadn't showered in 2 days.
I told her a few things and she showed absolutely no affection, but she cried multiple times...I could see it in the corner of her eyes...tears and they would fall after I said something. I choked up a few times when I spoke to her, I genuinely hurt telling her sorry for some of the things.
She asked me to get her stuff from my car...so I went and got it. Brought it in gave her the pillow, took out the rabbit, pictures, ring, and a little love note from my wallet. She didn't want the rabbit, said it was a gift to me I slept with it haha, that made her cry playing around with it. I gave her the pictures, she laminated them for me almost a year ago she saw the ones of me and her smiling and kissing and cried a tid bit again...just tears no sobbing stuff.
She didnt want the ring, as it was a gift from her to me. She insisted that I keep the pictures but if I didnt want them that she would take um, she looked at um more then once. I wrote her a little note that I was going to put in her car door if she didnt answer the door, it was touching straight from my heart. I read it outloud to her through choking up a little, she let tears fall again. I told her I miss her more then anything, she said she missed me too but is upset and mad still.
She went and got something to eat, said her mom and dad bought her chinese last night because she was upset or whatever. She said she wanted her bike back multiple times ( I didnt bring it, lol). I told her I'd bring it back to her.
She didn't offer to take any of my stuff and give it back. She reached over and grabbed the pillow that I gave her which she obviously slept with last night! Wtf?! took the pillow case off, and said here. We gave each other our favorite pillow to sleep with and slept with each others favorite pillow for like over a year.
I was there about an hour, I asked her "Do you think there will be any possibility that we get back together?" She replied " If I can forgive you for what you have done, but I cant do it when I am bitter and angry"
I asked her if she wanted to talk to me or not after I left, she said not right now im still upset.
I asked her to spare me time and tell me if she was seeing somebody else, she teared up after saying she does not want to be with anybody at all....tears followed from her some more.
I asked her if she wanted the little note that I wrote and read outloud to her, she said you can leave it if you want. So I left it on her bed. I asked her if she wanted me to take the pillow that was mine that she just removed the pillow case off of, she said I dont care I said thats fine keep it. She tossed it back where she sleeps kind of in an angry way it seemed.
She said she was going to take a shower, that was my queue to leave, I asked her if she wanted me to leave before this and she said I dont care stay or leave if you want. She kept her distance from me, we really didn't touch at all. She just looked dead to me in a way, but she kept letting these tears through, like she hurt seeing me there telling her how I felt.
So in short I only left her pillow, and took nothing but what I brought.
Laugh it up, I kinda feel better in a way though. I'll bring her the bike sometime this week.
PS she asked if my family was mad at her, I told her no...they are actually mad at me for treating her like ****.
I asked "are we seeing other people" she said " "we broke up, you can if you want I'm not, I don't want to, I just want to be alone and work on me", she cried saying that...just tears.
ANyhow fellas slam me, I know im a sucker.
I see you're still grasping at straws. If she has any character she will forgive you in her heart. But that's irrelevant. It's not forgiveness you really want. You want her to have the same feelings as before when you were crapping all over her.pvf94 said:....but for some reason I do believe she will "forgive" me. I think there is a round 2 with me and her coming soon, I just got that vibe.