"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So I think I handled this sh!t test pretty good.

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So this happened last week actually I won't remember all of it.

So anyways I hooked up with this one girl I met at water world, and everyhting was going pretty good and still is, so one day after a morning football practice at my school (not a two-a-day) she texts me and tells me something like she's in her AP psych class and they're talking about sex.

She was like "wow so this is random but how long do you think people should wait to have sex?"

I text her back "until they're both comfortable enough with each other, you"

She tells me "about 6 months"

Me "the longer the better"

her "that's opposite from what other people say"

me "i'm not like other people"

her "i can tell, it's a good thing"

And that's basically that from the little sh!t test, how I know it's a sh!t test is we've been hinting at sex for a while before she told me, and we still are after that little bit.

So any feed back on how i handled it, i'm not afraid that I handled it bad or anything i'm just wondering what your guys view on it is.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well.... You wont be having sex for 6 months.










Anyways, personally I would have said something more C&F, maybe teased her a bit about her answer, etc. There are many things you could have said and still have handled it well.
 

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Lol well I guess i'll jsut have to see what happens, and it was better than being a whiny pvssy about her saying 6 months
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I just want to point out what a bullsh!t answer hers was. Its very common too. Any time limit to wait for sex is bullsh!t.
6 months?
What changes between that 5 months and 29th day and 6 month day? Do you suddenly become mature enough for sex? You dont put a set time for sex.

It just happens when it happens. Either when your comfortable enough, you get her hot enough or your drunk enough.

Sorry I just cant stand it when girls say dumb sh1t like "ohh I dont want sex until 6 months have past.

You had a pretty good answer, You could of gone ****y and funny or joked around a bit with it first("Ex. However long it takes to get a condom on") but for the most part you did a good job. Just dont let it take 6 months.
 

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TBH I hated your answer, but that's not constructive.

Tell the truth! There is absolutely no reason to lie to a girl about your opinion on things, it actually makes you look worse if you do, you're trying to please her. The correct answer to this question for me would have been whenever the two felt ready. I have a feeling that being a guy you feel similar ;) , and should have told her so.

Be real man!
 

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i think telling the truth will always get you better results. seriously, what guy actually thinks "the longer the better"?

she more than likely knows you're lying lol. but yea, you coulda told the truth just phrased it in a funny sort of way. your first answer wasnt bad even (if its how you really feel) though it could have been worded differently. and like the other guy said, you may have had some success with poking fun at her answer.

but your answers dont agree and she doesnt want anything to do with you over it (doubt that would have happened) then it really wasnt ment to be. think about it, a relationship founded on lies is gonna fail
 

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I don't think that was a sh!t test and if it was I don't think you passed it... It was just conversation and connecting. It's sharing your opinions and views in order to connect, you don't always have to be passing tests. You don't have to lie to get a girl man.

I would have said 'You know, I don't think it's right to put a time limit on it. When two people are comfortable and ready then it's time. I don't believe you can just chuck a date on when two people are ready.'

The thing is, that's not trying to passa sh!t test. It is called BEING HONEST. Even if you think 'I don't think people should wait at all, but both have to be confortable with it' or whatever you say that because it is what you are really thinking and you she will respect you for it. In person it's harder to 'game' and lie then when you are texting, it's best to be authentic.

Now if that worked for you then kudos man good job, there isn't a set of rules to follow, it's whatever works. I'm just giving you my opinions from my years of experiance here.
 

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SinJester said:
I don't think that was a sh!t test and if it was I don't think you passed it... It was just conversation and connecting. It's sharing your opinions and views in order to connect, you don't always have to be passing tests. You don't have to lie to get a girl man.

I would have said 'You know, I don't think it's right to put a time limit on it. When two people are comfortable and ready then it's time. I don't believe you can just chuck a date on when two people are ready.'

The thing is, that's not trying to passa sh!t test. It is called BEING HONEST. Even if you think 'I don't think people should wait at all, but both have to be confortable with it' or whatever you say that because it is what you are really thinking and you she will respect you for it. In person it's harder to 'game' and lie then when you are texting, it's best to be authentic.

Now if that worked for you then kudos man good job, there isn't a set of rules to follow, it's whatever works. I'm just giving you my opinions from my years of experiance here.
+1. Nice post.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yeah I shoulda been more honest about and what not, i'm still overanalyzing some things too much like i obviously did with this, but I just need some more experience and I should be fine.
 

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just tell the truth. believe it or not most of the things that we think are taboo to say to girls are exactly the right thing or will get a laugh from them.
 
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