"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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So, I started to read the bible/try to get a plan together....

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I started to read the bible, and am going to try to incorporate some of what is said,if not all of it, into my own life. I have learned alot, I am still trying to reprogram myself however,cause if you are going to do this, you have to have the right mindset right? Well, that has been a problem since I have felt very depressed for a long time now, so what can I do to change that?

Plus, I feel,or worry, I have issues regarding sexuality and turning it on, other than just looking at porn. I know, nice guys finish last etc, I feel my problems are different. I feel I have this repressed side of me almost. What I need to do is develop some confidence. I realize, I have always been one more to wait than go out and get it type.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Congrats on reading it. But if your looking to the bible for a source of morality and rules to live your life by it will be worthless.

The bible is not a set of rules, its an account of God's dealing with man. It tells of how man screwed up ( the Adam & eve story) how God stepped in to fix their mistake by promising a savior who would bear the punishment For not only Adam and eves sins but for all who would believe. And then detailing the gospel that was delivered by Christ and then consequently spread by his disciples.

Start in the Gospel of John btw if its your first time trying to get into it.
 

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Lol at sir_turtle thinking it was the real bible

But dude, you are 235 posts into the forum and you have never read the bible....
 

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Fun stuff. promise you won't be able to fix what your trying to fix with that.

have a go at it though.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I haven't found time to read it, it's a long read. Alot of it is hitting home in many ways. esp on page 25, where it says about enjoying the things you have and don't wish for tomorow. Why do you think I won't be able to fix it with that?
 

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My point is that i havent really been reading your threads about how your depressed and not to sound mean, but i think if you were really determined to change and do more than just complain about it you would have already read the bible by now.

I think the bible will give you a lot of power and strength to fix your problems. However, what i assume turtle means is that to get to your optimum potential the bible isn't going to magically change your life.
 

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CapedCrusader08 said:
I haven't found time to read it, it's a long read. Alot of it is hitting home in many ways. esp on page 25, where it says about enjoying the things you have and don't wish for tomorow. Why do you think I won't be able to fix it with that?
Haven't had time to read it? I know that's a lie. If you'd put half the time you spent making all these crazy threads into reading the dj bible,you'd be finished with it by now.

This is what,the second thread you've made today?
 

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Because you are going to die. tomorrow driving to work, twenty years from now still asking the same questions, it doesn't matter.

Think you'll find happiness living in the moment? try it. The moment isn't all its cracked up to be, as I'm sure you've noticed.

Do you really believe the promises that book offers? Just think this way and life will open up the gates to paradise,roll out the red carpet.

Get yourself some confidence and woman will fall over you! =D

You'll get woman eventually, if you stick with it. Won't make you happy. Might be fun for a while, but everything on this earth gets empty if you give it a little time.

NOT that there isn't a right place for woman in your life, but the things required to make a long term relationship work, you won't find them in that book.

If you think getting sex will make you happy go for it. If you think that making your life more exciting will make you fulfilled go at it buddy.

It might distract you for a bit. In fact I can promise it will. chasing things that promise happiness usually does. But in the end you won't find fulfillment there.
 

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First things first: ROTFL (@ sir turtle).

If you are truly clinically depressed, it won't hurt to see a doctor. My roommate is on anti-depressants and at the same time has netted himself a cute girlfriend who I privateLY believe popped his cherry (he's in his mid twenties).

Sex isn't going to solve your problems. STRIVING for sex as some kind of goal definitely isn't! You're missing a crucial intermediate step. I don't know jack sh!t about you, or what you mean specifically about "reprogramming yourself," but developing a meaningful social life might be just the kick in the pants you need.

Feel free to discard the following if it's unhelpful, I really don't care either way, but it's a possible route you could take:

Announce to some close friends you're learning to cook (I don't care if you're a great cook already). Ask them about recipes they use (if you can ask for a recipe they've used that you've tried, bonus): this is to get them interested in your endeavor. Be like, jokingly, "I'm serious about this guys!" to get them really curious. Then invite them over (these are REAL friends. Not people you're worried about impressing but people you genuinely want to be kind to). Let them bring a guest if they want. Then cook them dinner. Invite them to bring something along if they want, but make sure you've got it handled. Laugh when they call you Betty Crocker because they will. Boom, you're a social leader, your friends are telling stories about you ("what did you do this weekend?"), and you've reinforced some meaningful relationships in your life instead of a fling with some chick.

Hopefully, once you get this kind of thing down, pulling girls will seem more like fun :dance: and less like something you need to "reprogram" yourself to attend to.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Yea above has a point. suicide rates are inversely related to social connection.

so get friends. or something. that'd prolly be a good idea.

Although as a disclaimer I'm not saying friends will make you happy. BUT. they will distract you temporarily from the dissatisfaction of life that you're feeling right now.
 
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