"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So i lost 2 of my **** buddies in 1 night :D

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Happened last monday went over to HB7's house for a shag ... 3 hours later i decide i cant sleep in her bed cause its a single and it sucks ass... so i tell her to get dressed and come to mine...

On the way there my other **** buddy texts me outside a club that i have to pass to get home and wants to meet me... so im thinking to myself hehehe im gonna **** 2 girls tonight... so i send the first one home and use the excuse that "my ex is outside the club and i dont want her to see me bringing a girl back to my apartment because we only broke up recently" ...

Anyways she walks home and i meet up with my other **** buddy HB8 ... talk to her for a bit and she decides to go to a house party without me... *****. Tough **** i thought... at least ill get a good nights sleep.

Long story short. Got a text from HB7 saying that it was over she didn't like the way i blew her off... shortly followed by HB8 saying the same thing but for a different reason :D

Back to the game now i guess :(
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Same **** happened to me like 2 months ago. Except my main **** buddy called me saying that she was tired of me treating her like "A hoe". She said I never make an effort to drive across town to see her and I don't care about her at all. The very next day, basically the same thing happened with FB #2... she said all I want from her is Ass, so she's waisting her time. I guess all women expect a certain amount of attention or concern , even if you are just "fu*ck buddies".
 
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YOUNG CASINOVA said:
Same **** happened to me like 2 months ago. Except my main **** buddy called me saying that she was tired of me treating her like "A hoe". She said I never make an effort to drive across town to see her and I don't care about her at all. The very next day, basically the same thing happened with FB #2... she said all I want from her is Ass, so she's waisting her time. I guess all women expect a certain amount of attention or concern , even if you are just "fu*ck buddies".
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Duh dude, you can't make them feel like "A hoe".
 
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YOUNG CASINOVA said:
Same **** happened to me like 2 months ago. Except my main **** buddy called me saying that she was tired of me treating her like "A hoe". She said I never make an effort to drive across town to see her and I don't care about her at all. The very next day, basically the same thing happened with FB #2... she said all I want from her is Ass, so she's waisting her time. I guess all women expect a certain amount of attention or concern , even if you are just "fu*ck buddies".
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*****eeeez :( if i wanted to listen to their **** i would get a girlfriend... why cant girls understand this ? lol :D
 
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Well... to me thats what they are. When they're tired of being that... SWITCHHHH! I don't like to decieve...because I don't like clinginess from chicks I really don't giva F*ck about. I been doin this so long... I think I'm too cold.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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pingpongz said:
Happened last monday went over to HB7's house for a shag ... 3 hours later i decide i cant sleep in her bed cause its a single and it sucks ass... so i tell her to get dressed and come to mine...

On the way there my other **** buddy texts me outside a club that i have to pass to get home and wants to meet me... so im thinking to myself hehehe im gonna **** 2 girls tonight... so i send the first one home and use the excuse that "my ex is outside the club and i dont want her to see me bringing a girl back to my apartment because we only broke up recently" ...

Got a text from HB7 saying that it was over she didn't like the way i blew her off...
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If your f-buddy didn't want to sleep in your bed and told you to get dressed and come over to her house, then told you to go home because she had to pass by a club and her 6'1 ex was there that she didn't want to see bringing you to her bedroom, would that turn you on?
 
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YOUNG CASINOVA said:
I guess all women expect a certain amount of attention or concern , even if you are just "fu*ck buddies".
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LOL. Yeah I guess women are human too.
 
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YOUNG CASINOVA said:
Well... to me thats what they are. When they're tired of being that... SWITCHHHH! I don't like to decieve...because I don't like clinginess from chicks I really don't giva F*ck about. I been doin this so long... I think I'm too cold.
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Hey, you're just being your genuine self, so if they don't like that then w/e. Speaking of morality, it's a matter of perception...if you think killing people is ok, then that's what you do. Just remember that there are consequences, and then proceed with taking the appropriate action. I'm not going to lecture on what's right or wrong, so go with your own judgment.

I'm guessing you placed this thread up to share the story with your fellow DJs, so I'll just say it was probably a good learning experience for you. I'm just pondering about your last statement though. You weren't in the game before this event occured?
 
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You're focusing too much on the word "fvck" and forgot about the other part "buddy". Would you treat a buddy of yours like that? They aren't your sex slaves.
 
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The mistake alot of young wanna be players make is that..They don't tell the girl what the situation is. That means the girl has no idea she is merely a fuyck buddy.

Secondly they do not use a schedule and stick to it. Most wanna be players are roving around just for a quick shag instead of order. That means if sally is available wed this week they will see her instead of putting sally on a schedule of one or two permanante nights say tue and thur and sticking to it with no exceptions.

The wanna be's will back slide just to get laid. Thereby the women have no structure and once they know that they can control you by getting you to break the programmed days you lose.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Alright this pisses me off. Look, if you don't want a f**kbuddy to get attached and start acting like a gf...then don't treat her like one. Don't invite her over to watch movies, don't ask her to meet you for lunch or take her to breakfast after she spends the night at your house, don't f*ck her for over a year and tell her that you do "care" and that "well I dont want a gf but im not banging anyone else." Don't feed her bullsh*t, don't talk to her every single day, don't kiss her like you mean it, don't hold her hand, don't cuddle her in bed, and don't introduce her to all your friends!

Sorry, just venting..but if any of you are like THIS to your fbuddy...then no wonder the girl gets confused. Geez.

No, we don't want to hear "can't hang out tonight, banging someone else.." but be straight about your intentions and don't just tell her what she wants to hear so she'll keep shagging you.
 
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What I'm saying is... I don't fill a FB's head up into even believing that it could ever evolve into a relationship at any point. I keep it on a friendly basis... I'll talk on the phone a little, speak when I see them... keep it casual, but I'm not holding hands, taking you out to dinner, buying gifts, etc. Some females who start off as FB's think that if they are keeping you satisfied sexually that it will make you see them in another light... Not the CASE FOR ME! I know they probably feel overtime that I dogged them out... but really all I did was be brutally honest.
 
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