izza said:
Also, Luke why do you keep allowing yourself to get provoked into a stupid discussion where people's goal is to mock you. FYI I don't think discussing religion is stupid, I think it's unwise to discuss religion with people who have a bad attitude.
To resolve any issues within myself where any shadow of doubt may persist that I have an elaborate system that's used as a smokescreen for issues fundamentally relating to an inability to get laid, and ensure whatever it is that is there is really 100% real. A success in this particular debate or discussion disproves any such assertion which was the reason it was brought up in the first place.
izza said:
For instance, why discuss with people who are just trying to make themselves feel better through mockery. That is not charity. That is not enlightenment. That is enabling them to act like fools.
If the particular issue is being addressed (i.e. slippery slope arguement or a masturbation arguement), then it is seen as a fundamental threat to the issue and must be addressed. If they are seen as trying to argue with me that I am indeed making a smoke-screen out of my religious beliefs, then I feel there is an obligation to show otherwise. The whole fundamental arguement boils down to masturbation since that is something I do without any conpunction.
They merely have to show I'm in violation in principle to scripture by masturbating to prove their arguement relating to sexual matters, which they have failed to do. Failing to prove that, then it can not be shown I'm using my religious beliefs as a smoke-screen because I'm behaving totally congruent to scripture. If I cherry picked what verses to follow especially since I have control over masturbating, while I don't have the same level of control about getting laid, then they would actually have one up on me. But the thing is, they cant show the Bible says anywhere definitively that masturbation was wrong so there is no cherry picking going on and that becomes a moot case.
izza said:
You are just talking about you, but you are not telling the truth about the situation. Some people just want to poke holes in you. I have wasted plenty of time with hole-pokers. Their immediate goal is to hurt others. It is a band-aid on their pain.
You are correct. I've written other threads on here, and I think people have caught on to the idea, that if I really wanted to, then I could get laid in some cases.
The OP in this case it talking about a 25 year old virgin that claims he will be dirty or unclean if he has sex. I think the portrayal here is people using religious beliefs as a smoke-screen to hide the fact that they cant get laid if their life depended on it or would have to use a prostitute.
I'm fighting that very portrayal by showing that there is no smoke-screen and that this is the real deal if there is any shadow of doubt. Now to SOME guys on here -- like joejoe85, they'll admit that their beliefs are a smokescreen to help them feel better to the fact they can not get laid and are using this as a crutch to make them feel better about their lifestyle. That being said, I think it's necessary to make a full blown religious discussion at least somewhere to argue that very thing.
izzi said:
I'm also concerned that you have a sort of laissez-abuser attitude that doesn't help you, it doesn't help other people. It's just being a pushover. Not that I'm saying people should be violent, or retributive. I think people should kindly speak the truth when others are misbehaving. And that is definitely a dating skill.
Izza
The laissez-abuser attitude? I don't know what you are talking about?
The lady that's coming over from Manitoba? Something else? You are talking to me?