"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So I followed the 3rd date rule.

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STR8UP said:
Of course the Quality Woman Brigade comes out to reinforce that this might indeed be one of the three women in the good ole' U.S. of A. that is actually holding out because she's a quasi-virgin and she "respects herself".
Girl doesn't bang by the third date, you advise to NEXT her. Yet if she bangs his friend, she is a keeper.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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guru1000 said:
Girl doesn't bang by the third date, you advise to NEXT her. Yet if she bangs his friend, she is a keeper.
Well if she bangs his friend and not HIM, wtf does that tell you!
jeezuz.
 
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STR8UP said:
It's like the other couple of threads that have turned into a trainwreck after a guy starts talking about some church chick who is hanging him out the window by his wee willy winky while she "decides" whether she will grace him with a peck on the lips. [/U][/B]

Don't even bring me into this. This is a BS example and an invalid comparison. So I had ONE date with a chic that I picked off the internet and she expressed to me she is religious and she won't kiss me due to that reason.

It was ONE DATE. I have already been working on her and I will get that kiss on the second date.

Some people just love to harp on things for no reason. OMG she didn't kiss me on the first date and she is religious?!?!?!? I must be a huge AFC!
 

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guru1000 said:
Girl doesn't bang by the third date, you advise to NEXT her. Yet if she bangs his friend, she is a keeper.
Haha...I get it. The thing you are missing is that there is a difference between a "keeper" and a "keep her around". I know a lot of guys here are chomping at the bit to get married, but I'm not one of them. Different game my friend, different game.

And a post with that tone shows me the guy can't handle women without "rules", so yea, he did the right thing by walking away. He can't handle women.

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Don't even bring me into this. This is a BS example and an invalid comparison. So I had ONE date with a chic that I picked off the internet and she expressed to me she is religious and she won't kiss me due to that reason.

It was ONE DATE. I have already been working on her and I will get that kiss on the second date.

Some people just love to harp on things for no reason. OMG she didn't kiss me on the first date and she is religious?!?!?!? I must be a huge AFC!
Sorry bro, maybe other people will sugar coat it but I'm gonna call it like it is cause you need a kick in the ass, going on about waiting for a kiss and considering jumping through hoops by attending church with her just to get it.

This post wasn't targeted at you, it was meant for the guys who DIDN'T give you that kick in the ass, but instead encouraged your behavior. I'm telling you straight up that chick is wasting your time.

SHE'S gaming YOU, whether you believe it or not.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Vlad the Impaler said:
Don't even bring me into this. This is a BS example and an invalid comparison. So I had ONE date with a chic that I picked off the internet and she expressed to me she is religious and she won't kiss me due to that reason.

It was ONE DATE. I have already been working on her and I will get that kiss on the second date.

Some people just love to harp on things for no reason. OMG she didn't kiss me on the first date and she is religious?!?!?!? I must be a huge AFC!
Seriously mate - I read through your Brazillian girl thread.
Are you 30 or 13?

Calling you an AFC is an insult to AFCs.
 
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Haha...I get it. The thing you are missing is that there is a difference between a "keeper" and a "keep her around". I know a lot of guys here are chomping at the bit to get married, but I'm not one of them. Different game my friend, different game.

And a post with that tone shows me the guy can't handle women without "rules", so yea, he did the right thing by walking away. He can't handle women.



Sorry bro, maybe other people will sugar coat it but I'm gonna call it like it is cause you need a kick in the ass, going on about waiting for a kiss and considering jumping through hoops by attending church with her just to get it.

This post wasn't targeted at you, it was meant for the guys who DIDN'T give you that kick in the ass, but instead encouraged your behavior. I'm telling you straight up that chick is wasting your time.

SHE'S gaming YOU, whether you believe it or not.

Actually, I appreciate the kick in the ass Str8up. you did help me out because I was thinking about joining her church. What a mistake that would have been

But you gave me that swift kick and I felt it,. so I continued gaming her and I got her emotional on the phone and I was gaming her emotions.

So now, I have her saying she will fool around on the second date and church is on the backburner.

Thanks man. We'll see what happens.
 

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To no one in particular:

I read some of the stuff on here (came to this forum on a reccommendation of a friend) and there is some real good stuff.
Unfortunately - there are a select few that are in denial about women, especially women and sex.
Sex is a natural act between men and women that are attracted to each other - end of muthafvcking story.
So - yes, I know a lot of women, especially Western women, like to use sex as a control tool. This is purely a product of our fvcked up modern society which puts women on a pedestal they neither deserve, nor are genetically programmed. Why the fvck do you think women are so messed up? They are fighting fvcked up social and supposed civil values imposed on them - but deep down, their bodies and hormones are telling them something else. No wonder "modern-women" are fvcked up.

If you feel your role in life is go on date after date with certain women. hoping you will finally cop more than a feel - then you are welcome to it - but don't p!ss about coming onto this forum hoping you are not going to be called a soppy AFC dikwad for espousing your cr@p here.
 

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It is ridiculous to take a rule and apply it directly to every situation and woman. Sure if you want to just churn them and burn them stay with the three dates rule like a religious zealot and next, and next, and next.

But the fact is this girl did not have sufficient comfort level to go further with you, and the fact that you were acting like a sexually frustrated 15 year old was reason enough for her to build no further comfort.

I think she made the right decision. Hell if I was a girl I wouldn’t have f’ed you either, and then some of the DJs here would be saying I was just teasing, or trying to control the relationship...what utter crap. You are too bloody immature to f***.

Losing your cool when she did not give out was in my opinion not DJ at all, but totally AFC. Why on earth would a DJ with choices lose his cool when one women does not give out on the third date and stomp off like a five year old that did not get his ice-cream?

The trouble with this site is it should come with a bloody great disclaimer that says ...This is general advice only.

Slotting all women or men into one formula setting for dealing with interpersonal relationships is just ridiculous.

Countermart
 

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You tried taking off her pants and failed and tried to PUSH her head down for a BJ? Because of a 3 date RULE? The rule means you are making progress towards sex,not absolutely haveing sex. The Mystery meathod with the venue changing is meant to give the appearance of more than 1 date,while only having 1 date[trying to score earlier]. One problem with dating rules or schemes-women have seen or heard them all by now. "The game" is all over the news, the pickup artist is in it's 3rd season,etc.

I'm in the pouty child camp. But just out of curiousity, how much did you invest? Other than time? The fact you were falling for her on the 3rd date-tells me you have a scarcity mentality. So you were trying to use DJ /PUA rules while still being an AFC. You can read all the stuff in the world,but you haven't done the work on yourself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sodbuster said:
One problem with dating rules or schemes-women have seen or heard them all by now. "The game" is all over the news, the pickup artist is in it's 3rd season,etc.
- Chances of you ending up with a chick who knows what a "venue change" and the purpose of it is- less that 3%

- Chances of you ending up with a chick who knows what it is, the purpose of it, AND is aware of it happening when it is happening- too low to count

counter- the OP NEEDS rules. You might not, but he does.

Zunder- excellent post.

Vlad- personally, I will give any woman I want to fukk at least three chances, unless she's a total nutcase. As long as you aren't spending a bunch of money on her, a couple of hours of time (if you enjoy it) are no big deal. Just keep in mind that at this point SHE is still in control. I seriously doubt that you will be able to recover, but it's worth a try.
 
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STR8UP said:
Vlad- personally, I will give any woman I want to fukk at least three chances, unless she's a total nutcase. As long as you aren't spending a bunch of money on her, a couple of hours of time (if you enjoy it) are no big deal. Just keep in mind that at this point SHE is still in control. I seriously doubt that you will be able to recover, but it's worth a try.

Recover from what? I don't need to recover from anything with this girl because I didn't do anything wrong. She's in control of what? It's been one lousy date and just because I didn't get a kiss you are saying I need to recover from something. The girl is still calling at least 2 times a day.
 

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You did the right thing to take out your c*** and putting her hand on it, and she reacted positively to it. For whatever reason she wasn't ready for full on sex, or maybe she's just mental, don't take it to heart to much. Just c** in her mouth, leave her place and try again a few days later. Don't let her get to you or appear angry it appears weak, just have a "whatever" attitude that you have other five girls lined up (without saying that) and go home with a smile.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I would have left when she denied me the second time. She will jack you off, but no sex? She knows exactly what she's doing, she's training you. Leave her the Frack alone. She isn't worth the hassle.

Experienced emasculating feminist, 37 seeks man to turn into her personal mangina to brag to her friends about, and empower her fracking ego. Is this really what you want?
To hell with that. If she wants someone to train she can get a dog. If she wants to tease but deny someone, let some other shmuck do it for her.
 
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