"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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so i finally got laid and now i dont know whats up with the girl.

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warning: this thread is REALLY long but if you read it and reply, and give me some insight you will be in my good graces :up:

I made a thread a while back titled "this week's issue." I really dont know where this girl stands, and I'm trying to follow pooks advice (dont mention a relationship, wait til she brings it up)Basically I met this girl at a party, got her number and s/n, we didnt really talk much... we forgot everything we said to eachother. Nothing happend but it did lead to another event. I asked her if she wanted to hang out, she agreed.

I asked her what she wanted to do, i proposed a bunch of things, go out and watch a movie, have dinner, have a drink or make it a blockbuster night. Anyways she said she just wanted to rent a movie and watch it at my house.

Before she left she asked "wait were just gonna cuddle up on the couch and watch a movie, right?" I thought she was being a bit too easy saying she wants to come over to my house the first time we hang out and cuddle up on my couch and watch a movie but whatever... the next thing she did that put the idea in my mind that was easy was that she drove a good 20 minutes to my house to hang out... usually its the gentle-man thing to pick the lady up... and i even offered to pick her up. This was at the time when I still wasnt that trustworthy of her I even gave her a fake address and then told her I'd meet her at starbucks, then I let her follow me home. Anyways we picked out a horror movie and went back to my house to watch it. We cuddled up on the couch and watched it, during the movie I gave her a hand massage because she said her hand hurt. After the movie I gave her a back massage and then while massaging her I said "turn around so i can kiss you" (even though most people wouldnt approve of this method I felt confident saying it and it seemed natural to me so thats what matters) anyways we kissed by the fire, didnt really go further than that, then she went home.

If you want more details of this date then check this thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=113302


We set another date for friday and we agreed to finish the movie at my house. Before I left for her house I honestly didnt really expect her to show so I bought her some flowers, so I can leave them there if she doesnt show up, and secondly because it was black friday and they were like $5. When I got out of the car I said, "Oh I did buy one thing for black friday, wanna see?" and gave her the flowers. Before the movie we explored my house a little and we went to my room and chilled a bit, she snooped around in my drawers and on my computer (with me present there of course) then we started another fire as the previews were playing and I said "well theres nothing to do now but wait... and you know we can do while we wait" so I started making out with her and then picked her up and threw her on the couch. One thing lead to another and we started making love. FIRST TIME I GOT LAID IN ALMOST A YEAR (after coming back to sosuave after a year of not coming back, never should have left this place) anyways, even though I hadnt had sex in what feeled like forever, I still think I did quite well, I lasted a good 10 minutes but had to stop a few times to eat her out and prevent me from blowing my load. After that we cuddled and finished the movie, then after the movie we cuddled more and talked about stuff. Didn't really find a comfortable time to bring up our relationship, so I didnt. We decided to get dressed and go out and eat, danced in my driveway from car music, we ate, flirted, seemed pretty lovey-dovey to me. Came back, cuddled more, then we fvcked again, this time I lasted a whole lot longer and we did three different positions and two days later i got sore from fvcking so much. After that we cuddled, danced a little more, kissed, flirted then i went to drop her off at home, before we got on the freeway I taught her how to check a cars engine oil and add oil. On the rest of the way home we talked and she browsed through my CDs and I sang to her... we also sorta danced/got rambuncious in the car to some rap. We made out and then she went inside her house.

When we were hanging out I asked her what she was doing next weekend and she said going to the club... Clubbing isnt really my thing since I can't really dance and I also dont need to buy into this club propaganda of meeting chicks since I meet enough girls as it is. We set a date for saturday and decided on seeing a movie (at a movie theatre).

Yesterday we talked and I told her I was taking my brother's fiance out to dinner and she said "so you're taking other girls out?" Now I dont know what this implies but I'm thinking it implies that she expects me not to take other girls out. IF she IS implying that she wants me to not take other girls out, if it is actually just a one-way thing and she wants me all to herself? then maybe while i have a thing with her and she fvcks other boys (which i think would be evil) or is she implying that we should have a two-way dating type relationship?

So I really dont know if this girl is just a skank or whats up with that and thats where I'm lost. I'm wanting to make a relationship out of this but then again thats oneitis, and that has to do with why i didn't get laid in almost a year until that night. But I really do want to make a relationship out of this girl but I donno where the situation stands. I'm trying to follow pooks advice of "dont bring up having a relationship with a girl until she does" But this is kinda going on a bit far, having sex with me on the second date... hanging out three weekends in a row now. I'm gonna have to really get her feeligns and understand what she wants but I dont know what to do this without coming off as an chump. Ultimately I DO want a good steady relationship but I'm not gonna let myself get caught up on one girl.


CLIFFS: girl fvcks on second date, is she a skank? how can I make her motives clear, whether she wants to date/have a relationship/be F-buddies and how can i bring up the subject without sounding like a chump?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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1. Basic sosuave teachings say all girls are horny, possibly hornier than the average guy :eek: . Shes not a "skank". She's just promiscuous. In my opinion, skank/slut/***** are made up words. They're were made up by chicks who were too ugly to get the sex they want, to bring down the hotties that do get the sex. Now, everybody uses it even the hotties. It really sucks, because most people have bought into the whole slut deal and therefore, most chicks won't have sex (despite the fact that they want to badly) very easily because they are afraid of being labeled a "slut".

2. Do what I do, get that word out of your vocabulary. If its ever brought up, you tell her just what I told you. Actually, you can do it with just about any chick that you overhear using the word slut. You start by telling her, that the word is made up. That'll get their attention and then you elaborate telling the whole ugly chick made up the words out of jealousy, and now the word just stuck and everybody uses it. Believe me, they'll be impressed. Not to mention they'll be more likely to have sex with you because they will no longer fear you viewing them as a slut. You can further this by not being the type to, kiss and tell, which you already have failed at miserably by starting this thread. Girls love guys who don't kiss and tell, because now they're free er? to do whatever the hell they want (aka sex) with you because they wont worry as much about other people finding out how "slutty" she is. Get it? Damn, I think I need to post this in the tips section.

As for the rest of your post...more sosauve teachings say the female always makes the relationship official or not. You don't have to do a thing. If she wants it official, she'll say so. If you want to sneak around that, I suggest next time she says something along the lines of "so you're taking other girls out", you say something like "does that bother you? why?". My 2 cents.
 

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ValleyDJing said:
1. Basic sosuave teachings say all girls are horny, possibly hornier than the average guy :eek: . Shes not a "skank". She's just promiscuous. In my opinion, skank/slut/***** are made up words. They're were made up by chicks who were too ugly to get the sex they want, to bring down the hotties that do get the sex. Now, everybody uses it even the hotties. It really sucks, because most people have bought into the whole slut deal and therefore, most chicks won't have sex (despite the fact that they want to badly) very easily because they are afraid of being labeled a "slut".

2. Do what I do, get that word out of your vocabulary. If its ever brought up, you tell her just what I told you. Actually, you can do it with just about any chick that you overhear using the word slut. You start by telling her, that the word is made up. That'll get their attention and then you elaborate telling the whole ugly chick made up the words out of jealousy, and now the word just stuck and everybody uses it. Believe me, they'll be impressed. Not to mention they'll be more likely to have sex with you because they will no longer fear you viewing them as a slut. You can further this by not being the type to, kiss and tell, which you already have failed at miserably by starting this thread. Girls love guys who don't kiss and tell, because now they're free er? to do whatever the hell they want (aka sex) with you because they wont worry as much about other people finding out how "slutty" she is. Get it? Damn, I think I need to post this in the tips section.

As for the rest of your post...more sosauve teachings say the female always makes the relationship official or not. You don't have to do a thing. If she wants it official, she'll say so. If you want to sneak around that, I suggest next time she says something along the lines of "so you're taking other girls out", you say something like "does that bother you? why?". My 2 cents.
thanks for your advice,

I dont know about you but if I wanted to date a girl then I wouldn't want her to be a slut or skank.
 

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i ****ed a girl just knowing her for 15 minutes....truthfully there's no such thing as a slut....in that case girls could call guys *****s all day....its a saying made by the beta male to keep leashes on a women's sexual side....if a woman wants sex that's wat it is.....
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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xomel said:
thanks for your advice,

I dont know about you but if I wanted to date a girl then I wouldn't want her to be a slut or skank.
Eh, as long as she doesn't cheat, and doesn't have an STD, its all good to me.
 
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