"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So I decided to fvck around on Pof

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I noticed something.

A lot of chubbier women have their body type as "athletic".

What the hell? lol.

Women.... hahahahahaha :crackup:

Dammit, and the fat chicks have their body as "average".

LOL.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sneevox said:
I noticed something.

A lot of chubbier women have their body type as "athletic".

What the hell? lol.

Women.... hahahahahaha :crackup:

Dammit, and the fat chicks have their body as "average".

LOL.
met with a fat girl off pOF a while back, she was telling me about her profile, "I know Im fat and my profile says average but so many women are fat now, fat is average"....a glance around the bar we were in gave a lot of credibility to her explanation! there was some logic to what she was saying.
 

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betheman said:
met with a fat girl off pOF a while back, she was telling me about her profile, "I know Im fat and my profile says average but so many women are fat now, fat is average"....a glance around the bar we were in gave a lot of credibility to her explanation! there was some logic to what she was saying.
Women and logic in the same sentence? Are you serious?
 

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Sneevox said:
I noticed something.

A lot of chubbier women have their body type as "athletic".

What the hell? lol.

Women.... hahahahahaha :crackup:

Dammit, and the fat chicks have their body as "average".

LOL.
I agree with your assessment. I've actually been thinking the same thing lately.
 

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betheman said:
met with a fat girl off pOF a while back, she was telling me about her profile, "I know Im fat and my profile says average but so many women are fat now, fat is average"....a glance around the bar we were in gave a lot of credibility to her explanation! there was some logic to what she was saying.
A pure example of self-serving, zero-accountability chick logic, even if it is true that the average has skewed toward plump-ville. A woman should revile that thought but instead they embrace it because it lets them off the hook in their minds.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I had one girl listed as "curvy" show up for a date. She was clearly obese. This is getting out of hand!!!
 

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"Curvy" is a dead giveaway. Essentially, the rule of thumb is to take her self-assessment and correct for it by notching it up at least a degree.

The only one that seems to be accurate is "thin". In my experience, "thin" with no picture posted means "Hot", as she doesn't want to attract a guy on looks alone. Your mileage may vary, but I have always been very pleasantly surprised by a self-description of "thin" with no pic posted. Once she sends me the pic, her future king is well-pleased.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
A pure example of self-serving, zero-accountability chick logic, even if it is true that the average has skewed toward plump-ville. A woman should revile that thought but instead they embrace it because it lets them off the hook in their minds.
Absolutely! but then they do have a herd type mentality, and when together they do resemble a herd...of cattle!
as for pof, any girl that int listed as athletic or slim, only has a headshot up...= fat!
 

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Thanks for the tip smasher. I've been doing the online thing for just a short while. I've had a few disasters, gotta remember my interpration of curvy(hourglass figure) is much different for these online slores. She looked nothing like her pictures too. They must have been a couple of years old. From now on I will be avoiding all curvy chicks online.

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"Curvy" is a dead giveaway. Essentially, the rule of thumb is to take her self-assessment and correct for it by notching it up at least a degree.

The only one that seems to be accurate is "thin". In my experience, "thin" with no picture posted means "Hot", as she doesn't want to attract a guy on looks alone. Your mileage may vary, but I have always been very pleasantly surprised by a self-description of "thin" with no pic posted. Once she sends me the pic, her future king is well-pleased.
 

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To betheman:

You are absolutely correct, sir. I have oft lamented the herd mentality of the um... "fair" sex, LOL.

There is no way around the fact that they are such herd creatures that almost nothing in terms of character and thought originates from within. I would say that the exception percentage is less than 1%. I know one or two who do indeed go against the grain of the herd... and they are married, of course...

Interestingly, with both of these women there is a chemistry between us that would be explosive were they not married. I can sense their constant awareness of being torn between their married status and their chemistry with me. This is the type of girl who would be a keeper for me. The pickin's are mighty slim amongst the cattle.

Here I go off topic again, but the subject is interesting.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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HedoRick said:
Thanks for the tip smasher. I've been doing the online thing for just a short while. I've had a few disasters, gotta remember my interpration of curvy(hourglass figure) is much different for these online slores. She looked nothing like her pictures too. They must have been a couple of years old. From now on I will be avoiding all curvy chicks online.
I've also noticed that the first, main picture can easily be 10 to 15 years old (once you're in the 30 to 40 y.o. category, which is my hunting ground). Extrapolate down for younger chicks, as they have less need to mislead in terms of youth.

My BPD of a few years ago had a HOT picture of herself up, turned out to be about 12 years ago. She had other pics up that actually made her look much worse. When I made a date with her, she out of the blue sent me a snap from her camera in her car and she looked downright hideous. Ugly with this big smile.

Being the kind soul that I am, I met with her a few days later, and she looked absolutely stunningly hot. This girl was as absolute shape-shifter!

I could tell she was visibly disappointed in me when we met, as I had just been sick and was in a short out-of-shape phase, but of course I won her over with the same personality that you guys must find so tiresome. ;)

She became my girlfriend, and thus began my BPD hell. I just wrote out the story of my date with her, which I know you guys would find quite interesting, but I'm tending to go way off-topic these days and I need to cut that out. I saved it for future reference.

The moral of the story is that you never really know until you meet them. This shape-shifting BPD was one of the most astonishing things I've ever seen.
 

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75% of online related dating is lies. You gotta be a glutton for punishment to go and meet any of these sociopaths in the real world.
 

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I agree. Every single one I've met has turned out to be batsh!t crazy.
 
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