So how many of you want to be married?

[Konada]

It's scary to see many of our brothers still believing in the fairy tale marriage couples live happily ever after.

After taking the red pill, I can't seem to be able to trust any girl I come across. News reports of wives giving bjs to other men for business contracts, or having s3x with underage boys. Where has their sense of morality come to?

I'm afraid I adamant against marriage in our society now. For a man, marriage is equivalent of signing half your assets to a ticking time bomb. You can bet your ass once the bigger better deal comes up you find yourself with 50% less your efforts.

What makes me sick even more is that women like this are still entitled to alimony and priority of child custody. Basically men are at the mercy of our extremist law.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Packers2010]

maybe when i am 45. MAYBE. my friend got engaged this year. i couldn't believe it. guy is 22, i was like. YOUR THROWING YOUR LIFE AWAY!

just my 2 cents i guess

 

[BeDJ]

Before 35, marriage is the worst decision you can ever make.

 

[PapiChulo]

The worse thing one can do is get suckered into the societal pressure to get married and to settle down. Most guys get married to look normal, feel less like a loser and to get laid on a guaranteed basis. Ask any 40 year old married guy about marriage. These guys are bold, overweight and don't get laid. I wonder why. This is not to say that good marriage is at all impossible, yet one thing is clear- it does benefit the woman for the most part. In my understanding, today's marriage age is 30-35, anything earlier than this, you better be damn sure it is the right woman.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Eh, I want to be married. My parents had a great marriage, and set a good example for me and my brother of how partners should treat one another.

The reason most marriages today fail is because people don't do a proper vetting of their potential life partner. They focus so much on the "love" aspect of marriage that they forget to focus on the "business" side of marriage. Marriage is much like a business - you're going into a partnership with someone for what will hopefully be a life-long project - so having the right business associate is essential. However, because the "love" aspect gets all the attention, you end up having marriages based on fleeting feelings instead of being based on the long-standing things that help a marriage stay together.

This is why noticing "red flags" and doing something about them early on is so important. Guys get so blinded by sex they forget to look at other things, like if the woman is nice to his family or strangers; if she can cook; if she had a job and earns her own money vs. always trying to spend his; her credit; if she has a history of violent acts or bad break ups; if she's the type to sit down and talk when disagreements arise vs. wanting to yell and blame him for everything; if their religious/political beliefs clash; how they feel about having children and their techniques of raising them... the list goes on and on.

Sometimes, a guy WILL see these things, and recognize his current women lacking in many areas he finds important. And yet, because he fears being alone his whole life, he ends up marrying her anyway, only to find out later that his initial instinct - to dump her - was the right one. And so, he divorces her - but by then, instead of being alone and with nothing owed to the woman, he's alone again but now has to give up half his stuff plus alimony, spousal support and child support.

Bottom line: if people weren't so afraid to be alone and were willing to have many, MANY talks with their partner prior to marrying them about how they would work best as a couple, there would be more marriages that would be able to stay together. If you're just marrying someone who's a good sex mate but not a good help mate, and doesn't have similar foundational beliefs, the marriage isn't going to last.

 

[pinkfl]

I would love to get married to the right guy.
I was never the type of girl that dreamt about my wedding day and already had the flower arrangements picked out. I am more concerned with finding someone with similar values. A man that will be a good father to my children, that has strong work ethic, and makes it completely feasible for me to be feminine. My parents have been married for 28 years, and been through things that would break up most couples.

But they work things out. They love and respect one another. A marriage cannot work without shared core values and attraction. Marriage takes work. My parents do not believe in divorce and they both know how to work things out. I respect them very much and I want a healthy marriage as well.

So yes. I do want to get married. But not to just anyone. I would rather be alone than with the wrong person.

 

[Kawai]

Gents & Lady,

The truth lies within a vast array of facts that surround our society. Sadly as individuals, we've omitted responsibility in favor of allowing our society as whole to take the blame.

We are currently at a 60% divorce rate. This is for first marriages. Second marriages are at a 75% divorce rate. In the United States 40% of all mothers are single mothers. These numbers are fact and apply to all of us, and depending on your demographics, more so or less so.

There's a systemic influence that obviously has some sort of benefit for one gender or the other. In the case of the divorce rates, by and far the court system benefits women (especially mothers), as our society still gives women a free pass when it comes to infidelity, and otherwise toddler-like behavior. The fact that we have "no fault" divorce proceedings should be telling. This is like living in a right-to-work state...you could receive your pink slip any time for anything, with no legit reason. Additionally, mothers traditionally GET PAID on divorce day.

Okay, the single mother rate. While divorces are at an all time high, so too are female expectations for men in our society. And this is not necessarily a good thing. Simply watch any sitcom or read...hell..."anything" involving the two sexes and it's clear that the message is that women should expect everything for nothing, and that men should simply kneel and provide. This said, sex has not discontinued, but men are less likely to get married simply because our economic situation in the United States is bad enough, let alone introducing the possibility of two additional mouths to feed and the wife deciding that she can paid by you and a new husband.

So we're seeing a growing phenomena of Men Going Their Own Way and simply keeping to themselves...spending their money on themselves. The next likely argument is that many men just do not have the financial means to build a family due to the recent recession. This of course is leaving a ton of women to fend for themselves...and hence we now see a far larger population of single mothers who have never been married.

The truth is, there is a very real chance that you will be divorced if you marry. Let's keep in mind that the 40% who do stay married have a percentage of men who put up with a wife who cheats simply because he's too weak to leave her (and vice versa), or that some couples are staying together simply staying together because of the children or because of the familiarity of the relationship. 40% does not reflect happy marriages.

Am I against marriage? No, I've done it twice, it was fun and it sucked both times. I did not have kids and today I enjoy both my new Range Rover Sport (Super Charged) and my Land Rover Discovery that's tricked out with lockers and so on.

Do I enjoy being alone? Most times, and there are days when it sucks. In the last year my best friend who was married for 15 years discovered his wife has been cheating on him the entire time...he just finalized his divorce two-weeks ago. Another buddy of mine who was with his wife of 7 years...just finalized his divorce 4 weeks ago.

I personally believe what's happening in our society is a tragedy. I love being in a relationship, but the truth is, it's imperative that you take the advice on sites like this. These are not lies or gimmickry, because if it was there wouldn't be a million sites, radio stations and common discussion about the same advice...over and over again. You owe it to yourself to filter the "goodies" from the "badies" before you say "I do".

Sources of Inspiration:

1. A Voice for Men Podcast (taking the red pill for once in your life)
2. Shrink for Men.com (dealing with grown-up female toddlers)

Shrink for men is hosted by a female psychologist who seems to understand the male dilemma, and AVFM has female speakers. Both forums are balanced from a male/female perspective and are not female-bashing, but rather address the lack of alpha-male behavior in our society.

 

[Burroughs]

great words of wisdom kawai...its advice from rational older posters that we young uns sorely need

The one thing men need to understand is that WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

again

WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

the woman you marry will NOT BE THE WOMAN SHE IS IN ONE, FIVE OR 1O YEARS...and that women will not be to your benefit as a man...that woman is shrewd and aware that ALL RIGHTS VIS A VIS DIVORCE BENEFIT HER....she could be running gangbangs in your marriage bed and she will STILL GET THE KIDS AND THE MONEY AWARDED TO HER BY A FEMCVNT JUDGE

understand this men and you will see why marriage is a foolish and ignorant move on the part of a man

for a woman..very smart...she gets to leech off a man for life plus get cash prizes and societal sympathy and most men are too stupid to realize they have other choices.

 

[HoneyHitter]

great words of wisdom kawai...its advice from rational older posters that we young uns sorely need

The one thing men need to understand is that WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

again

WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

the woman you marry will NOT BE THE WOMAN SHE IS IN ONE, FIVE OR 1O YEARS...and that women will not be to your benefit as a man...that woman is shrewd and aware that ALL RIGHTS VIS A VIS DIVORCE BENEFIT HER....she could be running gangbangs in your marriage bed and she will STILL GET THE KIDS AND THE MONEY AWARDED TO HER BY A FEMCVNT JUDGE

understand this men and you will see why marriage is a foolish and ignorant move on the part of a man

for a woman..very smart...she gets to leech off a man for life plus get cash prizes and societal sympathy and most men are too stupid to realize they have other choices.

^^^^^^^^^^^
+1

Marriage does not benefit men. Period.

It's about time we revolt against marital laws or just toss the whole marriage ordeal to the curb. So no, I'm never getting married. Simply because I'm a self-conscious, non-desparate, intelligent male.

 

[Mr. Bond]

The more I learn about women, the less I want to be married. Everyone looks at marriage like an option these days. If you're married and you don't like it, you can just get a divorce. Well what the fvck is the point of getting married if it's an option?

I also want to get a vasectomy - she gets pregnant, you're hooked. Problem is that while I imagine I never want kids, I'm not 100% on that one.

 

[HoneyHitter]

The more I learn about women, the less I want to be married. Everyone looks at marriage like an option these days. If you're married and you don't like it, you can just get a divorce. Well what the fvck is the point of getting married if it's an option?

Exactly. A man and woman can unite without marriage.

 

[PlayHer Man]

great words of wisdom kawai...its advice from rational older posters that we young uns sorely need

The one thing men need to understand is that WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

again

WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

the woman you marry will NOT BE THE WOMAN SHE IS IN ONE, FIVE OR 1O YEARS...and that women will not be to your benefit as a man...that woman is shrewd and aware that ALL RIGHTS VIS A VIS DIVORCE BENEFIT HER....she could be running gangbangs in your marriage bed and she will STILL GET THE KIDS AND THE MONEY AWARDED TO HER BY A FEMCVNT JUDGE

understand this men and you will see why marriage is a foolish and ignorant move on the part of a man

for a woman..very smart...she gets to leech off a man for life plus get cash prizes and societal sympathy and most men are too stupid to realize they have other choices.

EXACTLY.

Why would anyone with common sense enter into a situation where they have nothing to gain? Everything a man gains from marriage is superficial = Status / image related.... You'll be more attractive to blood sucking women because they see you as a proven slave.

What a man stands to lose from marriage or divorce can be devastating and often is. Getting married in 2013 is idiotic if you are a man. Simple as that.

My life strategy is use women for sex and entertainment and make as such money as possible. Undecided on kids, but if I have them it will be out of wedlock. I'll keep the possibility of marriage in the mothers mind so she acts right while the kids are growing up. But marriage will never happen.

 

[zekko]

Why would anyone with common sense enter into a situation where they have nothing to gain? Everything a man gains from marriage is superficial = Status / image related.... You'll be more attractive to blood sucking women because they see you as a proven slave.

What a man stands to lose from marriage or divorce can be devastating and often is. Getting married in 2013 is idiotic if you are a man. Simple as that.

It's a shame to say it, but I agree. In the current climate, the risk is simply not worth the reward. I have found that if you get a girl with sufficient interest in you, she will shack up with you and understand why you don't want to get screwed, er, I mean married.

I got married, figured I would try it once, it didn't work out, and there's no way now I'm doing it again. I considered the divorce settlement I got fair, but it still put me behind where I would be otherwise.

The only reason I could think of to get married is if you want to have children. It's best for them if they are raised in a familly situation. But unfortunately for men these days, having children with a woman is even more risky than getting married. Because it's the child support where they can really hammer you in the courts. I know guys who are living far, far below the poverty level because of all the money they have to pay in child support. I don't know how they do it, honestly.

You can believe in the sanctity of marriage all you want. The problem is, you're putting yourself at the whim of a woman, who can decide to divorce you at any time, for any reason, or for no reason. You can screen and choose as well as you like, but people change. 10 years down the road and she loses interest in you, you're dealing with a completely different creature.

 

[aron77]

Well I think once a man reaches the conclusion that he doens't want the hottest girl he can get but someone with the combination of phsyical attraction and personaltiy as well as compatibility then he is ready for marriage. But when a man picks a girl almost entirely on looks then he is playing with fire if thinking about marriage.

 

[In2theGame]

maybe when i am 45. MAYBE. my friend got engaged this year. i couldn't believe it. guy is 22, i was like. YOUR THROWING YOUR LIFE AWAY!

just my 2 cents i guess

I almost did the same thing in my early 20's. I look back and think of how disastrous it would have been to me.

 

[In2theGame]

great words of wisdom kawai...its advice from rational older posters that we young uns sorely need

The one thing men need to understand is that WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

again

WOMEN CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....AND THAT CHANGE IS NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT

the woman you marry will NOT BE THE WOMAN SHE IS IN ONE, FIVE OR 1O YEARS...and that women will not be to your benefit as a man...that woman is shrewd and aware that ALL RIGHTS VIS A VIS DIVORCE BENEFIT HER....she could be running gangbangs in your marriage bed and she will STILL GET THE KIDS AND THE MONEY AWARDED TO HER BY A FEMCVNT JUDGE

understand this men and you will see why marriage is a foolish and ignorant move on the part of a man

for a woman..very smart...she gets to leech off a man for life plus get cash prizes and societal sympathy and most men are too stupid to realize they have other choices.

This is very accurate, unfortunately.

 

[Fatal Jay]

im 26 and haven't found a single biatch I want to marry

 

[Purefilth]

So how many of you want to be married?

:crackup:








NOT ME!

 

[spang]

ive always imagined myself meeting the right one for me and spending the rest of my life with her. i felt that way about one girl once, but she had no interest in me, too busy chasing bad boys. the more women i deal with, the more that idea of "miss right" becomes a fantasy.
my family is always nagging me about when will i be married and have kids, both my sisters are married with kids. i see no reason for it. i dont need a nagging wife and crying kids. ive never felt like much of a family person anyway, im a lone wolf....but i still want a girl. what a predicament.

 

[Zerro]

Well I think once a man reaches the conclusion that he doens't want the hottest girl he can get but someone with the combination of phsyical attraction and personaltiy as well as compatibility then he is ready for marriage. But when a man picks a girl almost entirely on looks then he is playing with fire if thinking about marriage.

This.

There are still decent, marriage-worthy women out there but they're almost certainly not going to be among the 8's and up. That's why those are called Trophy Wives, they don't do anything but look pretty and drain your resources in keeping them maintained.