"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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So how does the whole "lay" process go?

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To be fair everyone on this site could just be lying and whatnot, maybe everyone on here is really a loser and doesn't get laid, we'll never know, it's all just words on a screen. I have more respect for those who say they are in a rut and have problems etc. rather than the ones who claim success but don't put up pictures, explain in detail what happened, reveal themselves etc.

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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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ezily said:
Well if that is actually happening to stand then Luke is making a valid point IMO. BUT the problem is that Luke is just assuming it is all stand's look and his game does not matter. However, Luke does not know what stand looks like. So that judgment is not a fair one. Plus some people don't like saying that the only reason they succeed is because of their looks. It can actually demean a person and make them feel as if they are stupid. So saying it is because of stand's looks only could be taken as offensive. I don't think stand is offended by Luke's statement but by his jumping to conclusions and giving advice with little to no experience.
This was quoted from Maxtro on the last of stand's threads:
Maxtro said:
As to what Luke is talking about, several of Stands threads are about easy lays where he has had to make a minimalist effort then the girls go crazy for him. He describes himself as 5'10, good looking, blue eyes and an athletic body. Obviously his looks are helping. But what's most important is that he is not blowing the many opportunities that are thrown at him. He also takes some initiative when needed. He is basically a good looking natural, who likes to get an ego boost from posting about his almost effortless conquests.
If this is what stand wrote in his threads -- 5'10, good looking, blue eyes and atheletic body, then this is where my arguement is coming from.

Like I said, ElStud seems to be getting a cold shoulder or flakes, but if it were stand, ElStud would literally have to blow them off to mess up with them.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
If this is what stand wrote in his threads -- 5'10, good looking, blue eyes and atheletic body, then this is where my arguement is coming from.

Like I said, ElStud seems to be getting a cold shoulder or flakes, but if it were stand, ElStud would literally have to blow them off to mess up with them.
Look if Elstud looked like stand he still wouldn't get girls because he comes off as a huge creep. This is something stand does not do. It is not all looks I assure you. Looks can help BUT you have to have an engaging personality as well.

Mad Manic said:
To be fair everyone on this site could just be lying and whatnot, maybe everyone on here is really a loser and doesn't get laid, we'll never know, it's all just words on a screen. I have more respect for those who say they are in a rut and have problems etc. rather than the ones who claim success but don't put up pictures, explain in detail what happened, reveal themselves etc.

MM
I completely agree with this also. MM makes a good point that I think we all need to keep in mind.
 
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ezily said:
Look if Elstud looked like stand he still wouldn't get girls because he comes off as a huge creep.
How do you figure that? I heard that girls think a ugly guy is a creep, while a good looking guy is stand-offish if you want to make a comparison. Creep is again something that tends to be used more with uglier guys that are upfront about their intentions.

ezily said:
It is not all looks I assure you. Looks can help BUT you have to have an engaging personality as well.
You don't have to engage girls that throw themselves on you - you just have to play along and be ready when they are.
 
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